UPDATE 31.10.: Amazon Alexa - ioBroker Skill läuft aus ?

[Bluefox]

Участник @Matzebhv написал в ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

Kannst du dann damit noch was anfangen?

Natürlich..... nicht

[sigi234]

@Bluefox sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

javascript@3.6.5 --production
npm i iobroker.js-controller@1.5.6 --production

Installiert, derzeit keine Probleme..............

Platform: Windows
Architecture: x64
CPUs: 4
Speed: 3912 MHz
Model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-7100 CPU @ 3.90GHz
RAM: 7.9 GB
System uptime: 23:07:29
Node.js: v8.15.0
NPM: 6.4.1
Disk size: 232.3 GiB
Disk free: 172.9 GiB
adapters count: 253
Uptime: 00:19:54
Active instances: 39

[Bluefox]

@Homer1976 Eigentlich DasWetter läuft alle 15 Minuten und stoppt sich.
Code 11 ist genau das.

[sigi234]

@Bluefox sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

@Homer1976 Eigentlich DasWetter läuft alle 15 Minuten und stoppt sich.
Code 11 ist genau das.

Bei mit kommt jetzt auch ein Fehler:

daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at WS.Transport.onPacket (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\engine.io-client\lib\transport.js:145:8)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at WS.Emitter.emit (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\engine.io-client\node_modules\component-emitter\index.js:133:20)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at WS.<anonymous> (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\engine.io-client\lib\socket.js:268:10)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at Socket.onPacket (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\engine.io-client\lib\socket.js:451:14)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at Socket.Emitter.emit (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\engine.io-client\node_modules\component-emitter\index.js:133:20)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at Socket.<anonymous> (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\component-bind\index.js:21:15)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at Manager.ondata (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\socket.io-client\lib\manager.js:322:16)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at Decoder.add (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\socket.io-parser\index.js:237:14)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at decodeString (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\socket.io-parser\index.js:325:9)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	at tryParse (C:\ioBroker\node_modules\socket.io-parser\index.js:336:12)
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded
daswetter.0	2019-02-13 20:30:02.224	error	uncaught exception: Maximum call stack size exceeded

[Bluefox]

@sigi234 npm ls socket.io ?

[sigi234]

@Bluefox sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

@sigi234 npm ls socket.io ?

+-- iobroker.admin@3.6.0
| `-- socket.io@1.7.2
+-- iobroker.js-controller@1.5.6
| `-- socket.io@1.7.2
`-- iobroker.socketio@2.1.1
  `-- socket.io@1.7.2

[Bluefox]

@sigi234 Ist das nur DasWetter oder auch andere Adapter?

[sigi234]

@Bluefox sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

nur DasWetter

Korrektur:

iot.0	2019-02-13 22:55:09.962	error	Cannot report device state: null
iot.0	2019-02-13 22:55:09.576	error	Cannot report device state: null
iot.0	2019-02-13 22:55:09.563	error	Cannot report device state: null

[Bluefox]

@sigi234 node.js version ? npm ?

[sigi234]

@Bluefox sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

@sigi234 node.js version ? npm ?

Node.js: v8.15.0
NPM: 6.4.1

[PrinzEisenherz1]

@Homer1976 sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

Hallo Bluefox,
nach Update auf 1.5.6 funktioniert der Das Wetter Adapter nicht mehr steht dann das im Log.
2019-02-13 16:45:15.828 - error: host.iobroker instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 terminated with code 11 (Desired termination)
zurück auf 1.4.2 und es geht wieder alles.
Grüße

Nach der Installation hat erstmal der Shelly-Adapter tewas verrückt gespielt, sich aber nach m Neustart beruhigt.
Jetzt hab ich derzeit nur die gleichen Fehlermeldungen vom dasWetter wie Homer 1976

Ich bleibe jetzt aber mal auf Version 1.5.6 und schau mir das mal ne weile an was sich noch so alles tut

Gruß
Johnny

[lobomau]

Gestern hatte ich ohne Erfolg 1.5.4. versucht, heute 1.5.6.
Ich denke ich habe woanders Probleme. Irgendwie habe ich neben opt/iobroker auch home/iobroker... im zweiten habe ich aber keine Rechte... sudo cd /home/iobroker geht auch nicht.

NPM version: 6.4.1
npm version >= 5: disabling package-lock
Could not check npm version: Error: EACCES: permission denied, open '/opt/iobroker/.npmrc'
Assuming that correct version is installed.

> node-bluetooth@1.2.5 install /opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-bluetooth
> node-gyp configure build

gyp WARN EACCES user "root" does not have permission to access the dev dir "/home/iobroker/.node-gyp/8.15.0"
gyp WARN EACCES attempting to reinstall using temporary dev dir "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-bluetooth/.node-gyp"
gyp WARN install got an error, rolling back install
gyp WARN install got an error, rolling back install
gyp ERR! configure error
gyp ERR! stack Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-bluetooth/.node-gyp'
gyp ERR! System Linux 4.15.0-45-generic
gyp ERR! command "/usr/bin/node" "/usr/lib/node_modules/npm/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js" "configure" "build"
gyp ERR! cwd /opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-bluetooth
gyp ERR! node -v v8.15.0
gyp ERR! node-gyp -v v3.8.0
gyp ERR! not ok

> ursa-optional@0.9.10 install /opt/iobroker/node_modules/ursa-optional
> node rebuild.js

ursaNative bindings compilation fail. This is not an issue. Modules that depend on it will use fallbacks.
fs.js:646
  return binding.open(pathModule._makeLong(path), stringToFlags(flags), mode);
                 ^

Error: EACCES: permission denied, open './stdout.log'
    at Object.fs.openSync (fs.js:646:18)
    at Object.fs.writeFileSync (fs.js:1299:33)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/ursa-optional/rebuild.js:13:10)
    at Module._compile (module.js:653:30)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:664:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:566:32)
    at tryModuleLoad (module.js:506:12)
    at Function.Module._load (module.js:498:3)
    at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:694:10)
    at startup (bootstrap_node.js:204:16)

> usb@1.5.0 install /opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb
> node-pre-gyp install --fallback-to-build

node-pre-gyp WARN Using request for node-pre-gyp https download
node-pre-gyp WARN Tried to download(404): https://github.com/tessel/node-usb/releases/download/1.5.0/usb_bindings-v1.5.0-node-v57-linux-x64.tar.gz
node-pre-gyp WARN Pre-built binaries not found for usb@1.5.0 and node@8.15.0 (node-v57 ABI, glibc) (falling back to source compile with node-gyp)
gyp WARN EACCES user "root" does not have permission to access the dev dir "/home/iobroker/.node-gyp/8.15.0"
gyp WARN EACCES attempting to reinstall using temporary dev dir "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/.node-gyp"
gyp WARN install got an error, rolling back install
gyp WARN install got an error, rolling back install
gyp ERR! configure error
gyp ERR! stack Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/.node-gyp'
gyp ERR! System Linux 4.15.0-45-generic
gyp ERR! command "/usr/bin/node" "/usr/lib/node_modules/npm/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js" "configure" "--fallback-to-build" "--module=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/src/binding/usb_bindings.node" "--module_name=usb_bindings" "--module_path=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/src/binding" "--napi_version=3" "--node_abi_napi=napi" "--napi_build_version=0" "--node_napi_label=node-v57"
gyp ERR! cwd /opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb
gyp ERR! node -v v8.15.0
gyp ERR! node-gyp -v v3.8.0
gyp ERR! not ok
node-pre-gyp ERR! build error
node-pre-gyp ERR! stack Error: Failed to execute '/usr/bin/node /usr/lib/node_modules/npm/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js configure --fallback-to-build --module=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/src/binding/usb_bindings.node --module_name=usb_bindings --module_path=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/src/binding --napi_version=3 --node_abi_napi=napi --napi_build_version=0 --node_napi_label=node-v57' (1)
node-pre-gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/node_modules/node-pre-gyp/lib/util/compile.js:83:29)
node-pre-gyp ERR! stack     at emitTwo (events.js:126:13)
node-pre-gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.emit (events.js:214:7)
node-pre-gyp ERR! stack     at maybeClose (internal/child_process.js:915:16)
node-pre-gyp ERR! stack     at Process.ChildProcess._handle.onexit (internal/child_process.js:209:5)
node-pre-gyp ERR! System Linux 4.15.0-45-generic
node-pre-gyp ERR! command "/usr/bin/node" "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/node_modules/.bin/node-pre-gyp" "install" "--fallback-to-build"
node-pre-gyp ERR! cwd /opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb
node-pre-gyp ERR! node -v v8.15.0
node-pre-gyp ERR! node-pre-gyp -v v0.11.0
node-pre-gyp ERR! not ok
Failed to execute '/usr/bin/node /usr/lib/node_modules/npm/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js configure --fallback-to-build --module=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/src/binding/usb_bindings.node --module_name=usb_bindings --module_path=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/usb/src/binding --napi_version=3 --node_abi_napi=napi --napi_build_version=0 --node_napi_label=node-v57' (1)

> diskusage@0.2.6 install /opt/iobroker/node_modules/diskusage
> node-gyp rebuild

gyp WARN EACCES user "root" does not have permission to access the dev dir "/home/iobroker/.node-gyp/8.15.0"
gyp WARN EACCES attempting to reinstall using temporary dev dir "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/diskusage/.node-gyp"
gyp WARN install got an error, rolling back install
gyp WARN install got an error, rolling back install
gyp ERR! configure error
gyp ERR! stack Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/diskusage/.node-gyp'
gyp ERR! System Linux 4.15.0-45-generic
gyp ERR! command "/usr/bin/node" "/usr/lib/node_modules/npm/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js" "rebuild"
gyp ERR! cwd /opt/iobroker/node_modules/diskusage
gyp ERR! node -v v8.15.0
gyp ERR! node-gyp -v v3.8.0
gyp ERR! not ok

> iobroker.js-controller@1.5.6 install /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller
> node iobroker.js setup first

Cannot delete file. Not critical: Error: EACCES: permission denied, unlink '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/lib/setup/../../_service_iobroker.bat'
Cannot delete file. Not critical: Error: EACCES: permission denied, unlink '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/lib/setup/../../iobroker.bat'
fs.js:885
  return binding.mkdir(pathModule._makeLong(path),
                 ^

Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/lib/setup/../../tmp'
    at Object.fs.mkdirSync (fs.js:885:18)
    at Setup.setup (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/lib/setup/setupSetup.js:157:58)
    at /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/lib/setup.js:634:27
    at processCommand (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/lib/setup.js:664:15)
    at Object.module.exports.execute (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/lib/setup.js:3159:5)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/iobroker.js:1:100)
    at Module._compile (module.js:653:30)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:664:10)
    at Module.load (module.js:566:32)
    at tryModuleLoad (module.js:506:12)
npm WARN onvif-snapshot@1.0.2 requires a peer of onvif@^0.5.5 but none is installed. You must install peer dependencies yourself.
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: xpc-connection@0.1.4 (node_modules/xpc-connection):
npm WARN notsup SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: Unsupported platform for xpc-connection@0.1.4: wanted {"os":"darwin","arch":"any"} (current: {"os":"linux","arch":"x64"})
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: @abandonware/bluetooth-hci-socket@0.5.3-1 (node_modules/@abandonware/bluetooth-hci-socket):
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: @abandonware/bluetooth-hci-socket@0.5.3-1 preinstall: `npm install node-pre-gyp`
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: Exit status 243
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: node-bluetooth@1.2.5 (node_modules/node-bluetooth):
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: node-bluetooth@1.2.5 install: `node-gyp configure build`
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: Exit status 1
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: ursa-optional@0.9.10 (node_modules/ursa-optional):
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: ursa-optional@0.9.10 install: `node rebuild.js`
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: Exit status 1
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: usb@1.5.0 (node_modules/usb):
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: usb@1.5.0 install: `node-pre-gyp install --fallback-to-build`
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: Exit status 1
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: diskusage@0.2.6 (node_modules/diskusage):
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: diskusage@0.2.6 install: `node-gyp rebuild`
npm WARN optional SKIPPING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCY: Exit status 1

npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE
npm ERR! errno 1
npm ERR! iobroker.js-controller@1.5.6 install: `node iobroker.js setup first`
npm ERR! Exit status 1
npm ERR!
npm ERR! Failed at the iobroker.js-controller@1.5.6 install script.
npm ERR! This is probably not a problem with npm. There is likely additional logging output above.

npm ERR! A complete log of this run can be found in:
npm ERR!     /home/iobroker/.npm/_logs/2019-02-13T19_51_21_042Z-debug.log
iobroker@iobroker-ubuntu:/opt/iobroker$

[PrinzEisenherz1]

jetzt hab ich den shedule von daswetter geändert und nun kommt dauernd folgender Fehler

host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:38.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:37.002	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:36.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4461
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:35.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:34.010	info	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 started with pid 4461
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:33.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:32.829	error	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 terminated with code 11 (Desired termination)
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:32.002	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4447
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:31.003	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:30.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4447
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:29.002	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:28.003	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:27.274	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4447
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:26.002	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:25.010	info	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 started with pid 4447
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:24.457	info	instance scheduled system.adapter.daswetter.0 * */16 * * * *
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:21.952	warn	stopInstance system.adapter.daswetter.0 not scheduled
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:21.952	info	stopInstance system.adapter.daswetter.0
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:21.952	info	object change system.adapter.daswetter.0
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:19.497	error	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 terminated with code 11 (Desired termination)
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:18.238	info	instance system.adapter.weatherunderground.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:15.723	info	stopInstance canceled schedule system.adapter.daswetter.0
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:15.723	info	stopInstance system.adapter.daswetter.0
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:15.722	info	object change system.adapter.daswetter.0
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:15.005	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4418
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:14.063	info	instance system.adapter.ical.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:14.059	info	instance system.adapter.weatherunderground.0 started with pid 4433
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:14.039	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:13.000	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4418
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:12.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:11.043	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:10.008	info	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 started with pid 4418
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:09.837	error	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 terminated with code 11 (Desired termination)
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:09.000	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:08.000	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4306
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:07.016	info	instance system.adapter.yr.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:07.000	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:06.000	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:05.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4306
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:04.628	info	instance system.adapter.dwd.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:04.001	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:03.013	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 does not started, because just executed
host.ioBroker-VM	2019-02-13 21:00:02.037	warn	instance system.adapter.daswetter.0 already running with pid 4306

[Bluefox]

Участник @PrinzEisenherz1 написал в ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

• */16 * * * *

Kannst du auf "*/16 * * * *" ändern? Sonst wird es jede Sekunde ausgeführt

[coyote]

Gerade auch Javascript und js-controller auf neueste Version hochgezogen.
Bisher alles unauffällig, Vis "Empty ID" Fehler s ist weg. :+1:

Bisher keine Fehler im Log von DasWetter . Behalte es mal im Auge:wink:

[Bluefox]

Участник @coyote написал в ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

DasWetter

Restarte mal DasWetter

[sigi234]

@coyote sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

Bisher keine Fehler im Log von DasWetter . Behalte es mal im Auge

War bei mir auch so, der kommt erst später.....

[PrinzEisenherz1]

@Bluefox sagte in ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

Участник @PrinzEisenherz1 написал в ioBroker.js-controller 1.5.6:

*/16 * * * *

Kannst du auf "*/16 * * * *" ändern? Sonst wird es jede Sekunde ausgeführt

Ah, auch gerade den Fehler gemerkt.

[coyote]

Nach neustart alles gut.

repetier.0	2019-02-13 21:05:24.548	info	starting. Version 0.0.1 in /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.repetier, node: v8.12.0
host.debian	2019-02-13 21:05:24.013	info	instance system.adapter.repetier.0 started with pid 31337
host.debian	2019-02-13 21:05:21.150	info	instance system.adapter.repetier.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
host.debian	2019-02-13 21:05:18.227	info	instance scheduled system.adapter.daswetter.0 */15 * * * *
repetier.0	2019-02-13 21:05:16.608	info	starting. Version 0.0.1 in /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.repetier, node: v8.12.0
host.debian	2019-02-13 21:05:16.013	info	instance system.adapter.repetier.0 started with pid 31323
host.debian	2019-02-13 21:05:15.722	warn	stopInstance system.adapter.daswetter.0 not scheduled
host.debian	2019-02-13 21:05:15.722	info	stopInstance system.adapter.daswetter.0
host.debian	2019-02-13 21:05:15.721	info	object change system.adapter.daswetter.0

Schätze, dass der Fehler erst nach dem ersten Schedule kommt

[Issi]

hab die v.1.5.6 jetzt seit gestern am laufen und bisher keine Error abgesehen von DasWetter mit dem code 11 aber der war auch schon vorher da