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  • L lonsimbt

    Ich habe ebenfalls meine USV (allerdings nicht APC) an meinem Heimserver (proxmox u.a. mit iobroker) hängen. Direkt unter proxmox läuft der nut-Server und fährt wenn nötig proxmox (und damit auch alle virtuellen Maschinen/Container) herunter. Alle anderen Rechner, die an der USV hängen, werden über einen nut-client heruntergefahren oder hart ausgeschaltet (FritzBox, WLAN-AP).

    Vergleichbares sollte mit nut/apcd auch für eine APC USV möglich sein.

    Mein iobrokers nut-Adapter fragt nur zur Information und Visualisierung den Zustand der USV ab.

    Die diskstation sollte sich m.E. auch über einen geeigneten Client, der den nut oder apcd Server-Prozess abfragt, herunterfahren lassen.

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    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
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    @lonsimbt
    Wie hast du den nut-Server unter Proxmox installiert? Direkt mit SSH drauf? Gibt es ein Repository dafür oder liegt der Server direkt erreichbar über das Debian-Repository?

    Gruß
    Martin


    Intel NUCs mit Proxmox / Iobroker als VM unter Debian
    Raspeberry mit USB Leseköpfen für Smartmeter
    Homematic und Homematic IP

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      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
      #10

      Ich habe auch die Konstellation wie @lonsimbt
      Mit SSH auf den proxmox host und den nut-server drauf installieren. nut.client auf allen anderen. Dann kann man konfigurieren bei welchem zustaned die 'clients' runtergefahren werden, und wann der server. Auch die Reihenfolge kann festgelegt werden. iobroker vor sql Server etc.
      In ioBroker kann man mit dem NUT Adapter alles überwachen.

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      • M MartyBr

        @lonsimbt
        Wie hast du den nut-Server unter Proxmox installiert? Direkt mit SSH drauf? Gibt es ein Repository dafür oder liegt der Server direkt erreichbar über das Debian-Repository?

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        lonsimbt
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #11

        @MartyBr
        Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

        apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
        

        Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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        • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

        Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

        Gruß Marco

        iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
        debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
        40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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        • L lonsimbt

          @MartyBr
          Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

          apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
          

          Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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          • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

          Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

          Gruß Marco

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          @lonsimbt

          Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

          Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

          Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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          • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

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            Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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            Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

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            @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

            @saeft_2003

            Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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            Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

            Gruß Ralf
            Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

            Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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              @MartyBr
              Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

              apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
              

              Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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              • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

              Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

              Gruß Marco

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              @lonsimbt
              Danke, damit komme ich weiter. Vielen Dank auch für die Links.

              Gruß
              Martin


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              • NashraN Nashra

                @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                @saeft_2003

                Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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                Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

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                @Nashra

                Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                Synology 918+ 16GB - ioBroker in Docker v9 , VISO auf Trekstor Primebook C13 13,3" , Hikvision Domkameras mit Surveillance Station .. CCU RaspberryMatic in Synology VM .. Zigbee CC2538+CC2592 .. Sonoff .. KNX .. Modbus ..

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                  @Nashra

                  Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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                  @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                  @Nashra

                  Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                  Danke :+1:

                  Gruß Ralf
                  Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                  Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                  • S saeft_2003

                    @lonsimbt

                    Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

                    Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

                    Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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                    @saeft_2003
                    Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

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                      Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

                      Gruß Ralf
                      Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                      Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                      • NashraN Nashra

                        Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

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                        @Nashra

                        Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

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                        • L lonsimbt

                          @saeft_2003
                          Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

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                          @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                          Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                          Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                          Grüße Andreas

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                            @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                            Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                            Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                            Grüße Andreas

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                            @weimaraner proxmox ist ja auch nur ein linux server - über terminal console apt install ....

                            nach einem gelösten Thread wäre es sinnvoll dies in der Überschrift des ersten Posts einzutragen [gelöst]-... Bitte benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat. Forum-Tools: PicPick https://picpick.app/en/download/ und ScreenToGif https://www.screentogif.com/downloads.html

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                            • W weimaraner

                              @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                              Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                              Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                              Grüße Andreas

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                              @weimaraner
                              Wie @liv-in-sky schreibt entweder per ssh auf dem proxmox-Server einloggen oder über das WebUI auf den Server-Knoten gehen und da die Shell aufrufen. Dort via apt install ... den benötigten Pakete installieren.

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                              • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                                @Nashra

                                Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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                                #23

                                @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                @Nashra

                                Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                                Moin.
                                Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                                Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                                {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                

                                Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                                Danke.

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                                • S saeft_2003

                                  @Nashra

                                  Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

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                                  #24

                                  @saeft_2003 sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                  @Nashra

                                  Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                                  2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

                                  Probleme war eigentlich nur wodurch geteilt wird, Blockly hatte ich schon versucht.
                                  Aber trotzdem Danke :+1:

                                  Gruß Ralf
                                  Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                                  Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                                  • RöstkartoffelR Röstkartoffel

                                    @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                    @Nashra

                                    Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                                    Moin.
                                    Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                                    Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                                    {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                    

                                    Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                                    Danke.

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                                    #25

                                    @Röstkartoffel sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                    {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                    Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?

                                    Das ist : CSS Gradient • Verlauf als Hintergrundbild

                                    Die anderen Widget sind auch so im Background eingestellt .

                                    -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)
                                    

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                                    Als Beispiel :

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                                    -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#090909 100%)
                                    

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                                    -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#faf334 100%)
                                    

                                    1.JPG

                                    -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #faf334 0%,#948fdb 55%)
                                    

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                                    • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                                      @saeft_2003

                                      Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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                                      Widget:

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                                      Bild APC:


                                      APC_BKR900SCH_01.png

                                      In den Datenpunkten :

                                      2.JPG

                                      Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

                                      3.JPG

                                      ( Synology mit der USV verbunden )


                                      Datenpunkte können für Skripts / Widget genutzt werden

                                      4.JPG

                                      ChaotC Offline
                                      ChaotC Offline
                                      Chaot
                                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                      #26

                                      @Glasfaser
                                      Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                      Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                      Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                      Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                      Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                      Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                      Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

                                      ioBroker auf NUC unter Proxmox; VIS: 12" Touchscreen und 17" Touch; Lichtsteuerung, Thermometer und Sensoren: Tasmota (39); Ambiente Beleuchtung: WLED (9); Heizung: DECT Thermostate (9) an Fritz 6690; EMS-ESP; 1 Echo V2; 3 Echo DOT; 1 Echo Connect; 2 Echo Show 5; Unifi Ap-Ac Lite.

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                                      • ChaotC Chaot

                                        @Glasfaser
                                        Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                        Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                        Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                        Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                        Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                        Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                        Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

                                        GlasfaserG Offline
                                        GlasfaserG Offline
                                        Glasfaser
                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Glasfaser
                                        #27

                                        @Chaot

                                        Meine APC Back UPS PRO USV 900VA ( BR900G-GR ) verbraucht 24/7 ca. 7 W .
                                        Bei dem Test/Erhaltungsladung geht der Verbrauch natürlich kurz hoch .

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                                        • ChaotC Chaot

                                          @Glasfaser
                                          Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                          Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                          Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                          Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                          Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                          Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                          Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

                                          liv-in-skyL Offline
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                                          liv-in-sky
                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #28

                                          @Chaot kann ich bestätigen - habe eine powerwalker 650vi - da sind es ungefähr 12-15 W - nervt mich auch aber usv wollte ich immer haben

                                          nach einem gelösten Thread wäre es sinnvoll dies in der Überschrift des ersten Posts einzutragen [gelöst]-... Bitte benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat. Forum-Tools: PicPick https://picpick.app/en/download/ und ScreenToGif https://www.screentogif.com/downloads.html

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