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      Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

      @crunchip said in ioBroker auf neuer Maschine aufgesetzt und Adapter Probleme:

      dann wärst du jetzt seit langem der Erste bei dem es so klappt

      Screenshot 2023-11-08 004654.png

      Vielleicht muss man auch mal Glück haben , habe nun zwar noch nicht mit gearbeitet, sieht aber auf dem ersten Blick für mich ok aus.

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        crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by crunchip

        @gismoh sagte in ioBroker auf neuer Maschine aufgesetzt und Adapter Probleme:

        Vielleicht muss man auch mal Glück haben

        ne, wie gerade schon geschrieben, du hattest keine frische Installation, sondern die Adapter gelöscht(iobroker leer gemacht)

        @gismoh sagte in ioBroker auf neuer Maschine aufgesetzt und Adapter Probleme:

        ble klappt weiterhin nicht.

        iob del ble
        

        danach

        iob add ble --debug
        
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          Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

          @crunchip said in ioBroker auf neuer Maschine aufgesetzt und Adapter Probleme:

          dann muss es auch eine Meldung im Log geben beim restore

          im Backitup adapter wurde angezeigt das der restore erfolgreich war, was weiters habe ich leider nicht gesehen - den Inhalt des Fensters (also komplette meldung) konnte ich nicht kopieren.

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          • crunchip
            crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by

            @gismoh na im log nachsehen, da wird jeder adapter neu gebaut nach dem erfolgreichen restore

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              Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

              @crunchip

              Delete adapter "ble"
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 1 instances of ble
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 1 meta of ble
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 1 adapter for ble
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 35 devices of ble
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 37 channels of ble
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 91 states of ble
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 14 states of system.adapter.ble
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 92 states (io.ble.*) from states
              host.ioBrokerVM Counted 13 states (system.adapter.ble.*) from states
              host.ioBrokerVM object ble deleted
              host.ioBrokerVM object ble.admin deleted
              host.ioBrokerVM Deleting 180 object(s).
              host.ioBrokerVM Deleting 105 state(s).
              Error deleting adapter ble from disk: Cannot find module 'iobroker.ble/io-package.json'
              Require stack:
              - /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@iobroker/js-controller-cli/build/lib/setup/setupInstall.js
              - /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@iobroker/js-controller-cli/build/lib/setup/setupUpgrade.js
              - /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@iobroker/js-controller-cli/build/index.js
              - /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.js-controller/iobroker.js
              You might have to delete it yourself!
              
              root@ioBrokerVM:~# iob add ble --debug
              NPM version: 9.8.1
              Installing iobroker.ble@0.13.4... (System call)
              npm ERR! code 1
              npm ERR! path /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble
              npm ERR! command failed
              npm ERR! command sh -c node-gyp-build
              npm ERR! gyp info it worked if it ends with ok
              npm ERR! gyp info using node-gyp@7.1.2
              npm ERR! gyp info using node@18.18.2 | linux | x64
              npm ERR! gyp info find Python using Python version 3.11.2 found at "/usr/bin/python3"
              npm ERR! (node:3048) [DEP0150] DeprecationWarning: Setting process.config is deprecated. In the future the property will be read-only.
              npm ERR! (Use `node --trace-deprecation ...` to show where the warning was created)
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn /usr/bin/python3
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args [
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/gyp_main.py',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   'binding.gyp',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-f',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   'make',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-I',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble/build/config.gypi',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-I',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/addon.gypi',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-I',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/home/iobroker/.cache/node-gyp/18.18.2/include/node/common.gypi',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dlibrary=shared_library',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dvisibility=default',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_root_dir=/home/iobroker/.cache/node-gyp/18.18.2',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_gyp_dir=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_lib_file=/home/iobroker/.cache/node-gyp/18.18.2/<(target_arch)/node.lib',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dmodule_root_dir=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_engine=v8',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '--depth=.',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '--no-parallel',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '--generator-output',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   'build',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Goutput_dir=.'
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args ]
              npm ERR! Traceback (most recent call last):
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/gyp_main.py", line 51, in <module>
              npm ERR!     sys.exit(gyp.script_main())
              npm ERR!              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 670, in script_main
              npm ERR!     return main(sys.argv[1:])
              npm ERR!            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 662, in main
              npm ERR!     return gyp_main(args)
              npm ERR!            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 629, in gyp_main
              npm ERR!     [generator, flat_list, targets, data] = Load(
              npm ERR!                                             ^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 150, in Load
              npm ERR!     result = gyp.input.Load(
              npm ERR!              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 3021, in Load
              npm ERR!     LoadTargetBuildFile(
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 411, in LoadTargetBuildFile
              npm ERR!     build_file_data = LoadOneBuildFile(
              npm ERR!                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 239, in LoadOneBuildFile
              npm ERR!     build_file_contents = open(build_file_path, "rU").read()
              npm ERR!                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR! ValueError: invalid mode: 'rU' while trying to load binding.gyp
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! configure error 
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack Error: `gyp` failed with exit code: 1
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.onCpExit (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/lib/configure.js:351:16)
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.emit (node:events:517:28)
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:292:12)
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! System Linux 6.1.0-13-amd64
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! command "/usr/bin/node" "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js" "rebuild"
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! cwd /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! node -v v18.18.2
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! node-gyp -v v7.1.2
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! not ok
              
              npm ERR! A complete log of this run can be found in: /home/iobroker/.npm/_logs/2023-11-07T23_56_22_185Z-debug-0.log
              npm ERR! code 1
              npm ERR! path /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble
              npm ERR! command failed
              npm ERR! command sh -c node-gyp-build
              npm ERR! gyp info it worked if it ends with ok
              npm ERR! gyp info using node-gyp@7.1.2
              npm ERR! gyp info using node@18.18.2 | linux | x64
              npm ERR! gyp info find Python using Python version 3.11.2 found at "/usr/bin/python3"
              npm ERR! (node:3048) [DEP0150] DeprecationWarning: Setting process.config is deprecated. In the future the property will be read-only.
              npm ERR! (Use `node --trace-deprecation ...` to show where the warning was created)
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn /usr/bin/python3
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args [
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/gyp_main.py',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   'binding.gyp',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-f',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   'make',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-I',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble/build/config.gypi',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-I',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/addon.gypi',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-I',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '/home/iobroker/.cache/node-gyp/18.18.2/include/node/common.gypi',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dlibrary=shared_library',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dvisibility=default',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_root_dir=/home/iobroker/.cache/node-gyp/18.18.2',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_gyp_dir=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_lib_file=/home/iobroker/.cache/node-gyp/18.18.2/<(target_arch)/node.lib',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dmodule_root_dir=/opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Dnode_engine=v8',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '--depth=.',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '--no-parallel',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '--generator-output',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   'build',
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args   '-Goutput_dir=.'
              npm ERR! gyp info spawn args ]
              npm ERR! Traceback (most recent call last):
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/gyp_main.py", line 51, in <module>
              npm ERR!     sys.exit(gyp.script_main())
              npm ERR!              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 670, in script_main
              npm ERR!     return main(sys.argv[1:])
              npm ERR!            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 662, in main
              npm ERR!     return gyp_main(args)
              npm ERR!            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 629, in gyp_main
              npm ERR!     [generator, flat_list, targets, data] = Load(
              npm ERR!                                             ^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 150, in Load
              npm ERR!     result = gyp.input.Load(
              npm ERR!              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 3021, in Load
              npm ERR!     LoadTargetBuildFile(
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 411, in LoadTargetBuildFile
              npm ERR!     build_file_data = LoadOneBuildFile(
              npm ERR!                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 239, in LoadOneBuildFile
              npm ERR!     build_file_contents = open(build_file_path, "rU").read()
              npm ERR!                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
              npm ERR! ValueError: invalid mode: 'rU' while trying to load binding.gyp
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! configure error 
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack Error: `gyp` failed with exit code: 1
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.onCpExit (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/lib/configure.js:351:16)
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.emit (node:events:517:28)
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:292:12)
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! System Linux 6.1.0-13-amd64
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! command "/usr/bin/node" "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js" "rebuild"
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! cwd /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! node -v v18.18.2
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! node-gyp -v v7.1.2
              npm ERR! gyp ERR! not ok
              
              npm ERR! A complete log of this run can be found in: /home/iobroker/.npm/_logs/2023-11-07T23_56_22_185Z-debug-0.log
              host.ioBrokerVM Cannot install iobroker.ble@0.13.4: 1
              root@ioBrokerVM:~# 
              
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              • crunchip
                crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by crunchip

                @gismoh sag ich doch, das ist genau der Fehler den ich oben im git issue gezeigt hab

                ich habe nun in
                /opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py
                die folgenden Zeile von
                build_file_contents = open(build_file_path, 'rU').read()
                in
                build_file_contents = open(build_file_path, 'r').read()
                geändert.
                

                siehe nodejs/node-gyp#2219 (comment)

                BriceKrispies created this issue in nodejs/node-gyp

                closed ValueError: invalid mode: 'rU' while trying to load binding.gyp (Python 3.9 compatibility issue) #2219

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                  Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

                  @crunchip
                  Okay, besten Dank!
                  DOrt hatte ich bereits drübergeschaut, aber denke um dies anzugehen benötige ich meinen Freund - denke für mich als Laie ist dies nicht verständlich genug.

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                    Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

                    @crunchip
                    okay, danke für deine Erklärung, dann versuche ich mich dann doch mal dran 😉

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                    • crunchip
                      crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by crunchip

                      @gismoh
                      du musst die Zeile
                      /opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py
                      mit nano aufrufen und das U in der entsprechenden Zeile entfernen
                      abspeichern, fertig

                      sudo nano /opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py

                      dabei musst du ein stück nach unten blättern
                      ec23dd89-feac-4fb7-8663-aa4437f0cf07-image.png

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                        Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

                        @crunchip
                        Besten Dank für deine unermüdliche Hilfe!
                        muss allerdings erst schauen, wo die Datei bei mir ist, zumindest konnte ich die Datei mit "sudo nano /opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py" nicht finden, bzw. es wurde mir eine leere Datei angezeigt.

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                        • crunchip
                          crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by

                          @gismoh dann installier mal zuerst die v0.13.3

                          iob add ble@0.13.3
                          
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                            Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

                            @crunchip

                            NPM version: 9.8.1
                            Installing iobroker.ble@0.13.3... (System call)
                            npm ERR! code 1
                            npm ERR! path /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble
                            npm ERR! command failed
                            npm ERR! command sh -c node-gyp-build
                            npm ERR! (node:3259) [DEP0150] DeprecationWarning: Setting process.config is deprecated. In the future the property will be read-only.
                            npm ERR! (Use `node --trace-deprecation ...` to show where the warning was created)
                            npm ERR! Traceback (most recent call last):
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/gyp_main.py", line 51, in <module>
                            npm ERR!     sys.exit(gyp.script_main())
                            npm ERR!              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 670, in script_main
                            npm ERR!     return main(sys.argv[1:])
                            npm ERR!            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 662, in main
                            npm ERR!     return gyp_main(args)
                            npm ERR!            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 629, in gyp_main
                            npm ERR!     [generator, flat_list, targets, data] = Load(
                            npm ERR!                                             ^^^^^
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/__init__.py", line 150, in Load
                            npm ERR!     result = gyp.input.Load(
                            npm ERR!              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 3021, in Load
                            npm ERR!     LoadTargetBuildFile(
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 411, in LoadTargetBuildFile
                            npm ERR!     build_file_data = LoadOneBuildFile(
                            npm ERR!                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            npm ERR!   File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 239, in LoadOneBuildFile
                            npm ERR!     build_file_contents = open(build_file_path, "rU").read()
                            npm ERR!                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                            npm ERR! ValueError: invalid mode: 'rU' while trying to load binding.gyp
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! configure error 
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack Error: `gyp` failed with exit code: 1
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.onCpExit (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/lib/configure.js:351:16)
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess.emit (node:events:517:28)
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack     at ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:292:12)
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! System Linux 6.1.0-13-amd64
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! command "/usr/bin/node" "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/bin/node-gyp.js" "rebuild"
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! cwd /opt/iobroker/node_modules/@abandonware/noble
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! node -v v18.18.2
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! node-gyp -v v7.1.2
                            npm ERR! gyp ERR! not ok
                            
                            npm ERR! A complete log of this run can be found in: /home/iobroker/.npm/_logs/2023-11-08T00_24_15_069Z-debug-0.log
                            host.ioBrokerVM Cannot install iobroker.ble@0.13.3: 1
                            
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                            • crunchip
                              crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by

                              @gismoh sagte in ioBroker auf neuer Maschine aufgesetzt und Adapter Probleme:
                              npm ERR! File "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp/input.py", line 239, in LoadOneBuildFile npm ERR! build_file_contents = open(build_file_path, "rU").read() npm ERR! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ npm ERR! ValueError: invalid mode: 'rU' while trying to load binding.gyp

                              die Datei muss es geben

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                              • crunchip
                                crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by

                                @gismoh ok, bei mir ging die 0.13.3 damals, vllt auch weil sie vorher schon lief und das Problem bei einem upgrade auf die 0.13.4 entstand

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                                  Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

                                  @crunchip
                                  Verzeichnis „/opt/iobroker/node_modules/node-gyp/gyp/pylib/gyp“ existiert nicht

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                                    Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

                                    @crunchip
                                    ich verstehe auch "Logisch" nicht, das der ble vorher lief, nach Backup einspieleung nicht mehr. Kann ja auch nicht sein, das dadurch ganze ordner gelöscht wurden, denn andere Adapter laufen ja auch nach der Einspielung.

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                                      Gismoh @crunchip last edited by Gismoh

                                      @crunchip
                                      hmmm, vielleicht sollte ich nochmal das prozedre durchspielen, aber diesmal vor dem Backup das ble von der bestehenden Installation löschen - damit er diesen nicht mit sichert und einspielt - also den von der frischen Installation evtl. einfach behält? (hoffe das Backup löscht den dann nicht - weil nicht im Restore des Backups vorhanden.)

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                                      • crunchip
                                        crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by

                                        @gismoh sagte in ioBroker auf neuer Maschine aufgesetzt und Adapter Probleme:

                                        das dadurch ganze ordner gelöscht wurden

                                        nochmal,
                                        neu gebaut werden, aufgrund der Einstellungen aus deinem Backup und der neuen iobroker/nodejs Umgebung

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                                        • crunchip
                                          crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Gismoh last edited by crunchip

                                          @gismoh kannst du machen, ble wird nicht gelöscht, der bleibt bestehen

                                          ich bin jetzt aber mal weg, viel Erfolg noch

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                                            Gismoh @crunchip last edited by

                                            @crunchip
                                            dann werde ich mich mal ransetzen, wird aber vermutlich dauern, da ich vorher noch ein Karten-Kopie mache usw.

                                            Besten Dank an dich und dir eine schöne Nachtruhe!

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