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  • L lonsimbt

    @MartyBr
    Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

    apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
    

    Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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    • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

    Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

    Gruß Marco

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    #12

    @lonsimbt

    Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

    Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

    Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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      Bild APC:


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      In den Datenpunkten :

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      Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

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      ( Synology mit der USV verbunden )


      Datenpunkte können für Skripts / Widget genutzt werden

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      @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

      @saeft_2003

      Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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      Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

      Gruß Ralf
      Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

      Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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        @MartyBr
        Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

        apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
        

        Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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        • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

        Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

        Gruß Marco

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        @lonsimbt
        Danke, damit komme ich weiter. Vielen Dank auch für die Links.

        Gruß
        Martin


        Intel NUCs mit Proxmox / Iobroker als VM unter Debian
        Raspeberry mit USB Leseköpfen für Smartmeter
        Homematic und Homematic IP

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          @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

          @saeft_2003

          Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

          1.JPG

          Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

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          @Nashra

          Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

          Synology 918+ 16GB - ioBroker in Docker v9 , VISO auf Trekstor Primebook C13 13,3" , Hikvision Domkameras mit Surveillance Station .. CCU RaspberryMatic in Synology VM .. Zigbee CC2538+CC2592 .. Sonoff .. KNX .. Modbus ..

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            @Nashra

            Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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            @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

            @Nashra

            Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

            Danke :+1:

            Gruß Ralf
            Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

            Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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              @lonsimbt

              Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

              Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

              Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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              @saeft_2003
              Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

              iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
              debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
              40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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                Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

                Gruß Ralf
                Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                  Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

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                  @Nashra

                  Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                  2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

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                    @saeft_2003
                    Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

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                    @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                    Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                    Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                    Grüße Andreas

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                      @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                      Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                      Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                      Grüße Andreas

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                      @weimaraner proxmox ist ja auch nur ein linux server - über terminal console apt install ....

                      nach einem gelösten Thread wäre es sinnvoll dies in der Überschrift des ersten Posts einzutragen [gelöst]-... Bitte benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat. Forum-Tools: PicPick https://picpick.app/en/download/ und ScreenToGif https://www.screentogif.com/downloads.html

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                        @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                        Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                        Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                        Grüße Andreas

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                        @weimaraner
                        Wie @liv-in-sky schreibt entweder per ssh auf dem proxmox-Server einloggen oder über das WebUI auf den Server-Knoten gehen und da die Shell aufrufen. Dort via apt install ... den benötigten Pakete installieren.

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                        iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
                        debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
                        40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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                        • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                          @Nashra

                          Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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                          @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                          @Nashra

                          Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                          Moin.
                          Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                          Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                          {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                          

                          Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                          Danke.

                          NUC7i3BNH mit Proxmox und ioBroker (VM Debian Buster), Raspi3 (Slave Smartmeter für eHZ easymeter), Hardware CCU2, SMA SB5000TL-21

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                            @Nashra

                            Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                            2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

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                            @saeft_2003 sagte in Frage zu USV:

                            @Nashra

                            Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                            2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

                            Probleme war eigentlich nur wodurch geteilt wird, Blockly hatte ich schon versucht.
                            Aber trotzdem Danke :+1:

                            Gruß Ralf
                            Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                            Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                              @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                              @Nashra

                              Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                              Moin.
                              Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                              Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                              {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                              

                              Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                              Danke.

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                              Glasfaser
                              wrote on last edited by Glasfaser
                              #25

                              @Röstkartoffel sagte in Frage zu USV:

                              {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                              Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?

                              Das ist : CSS Gradient • Verlauf als Hintergrundbild

                              Die anderen Widget sind auch so im Background eingestellt .

                              -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)
                              

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                              Als Beispiel :

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                              -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#090909 100%)
                              

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                              -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#faf334 100%)
                              

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                              -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #faf334 0%,#948fdb 55%)
                              

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                              • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

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                                Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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                                Widget:

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                                Bild APC:


                                APC_BKR900SCH_01.png

                                In den Datenpunkten :

                                2.JPG

                                Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

                                3.JPG

                                ( Synology mit der USV verbunden )


                                Datenpunkte können für Skripts / Widget genutzt werden

                                4.JPG

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                                wrote on last edited by
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                                @Glasfaser
                                Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

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                                • ChaotC Chaot

                                  @Glasfaser
                                  Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                  Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                  Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                  Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                  Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                  Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                  Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

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                                  Glasfaser
                                  wrote on last edited by Glasfaser
                                  #27

                                  @Chaot

                                  Meine APC Back UPS PRO USV 900VA ( BR900G-GR ) verbraucht 24/7 ca. 7 W .
                                  Bei dem Test/Erhaltungsladung geht der Verbrauch natürlich kurz hoch .

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                                  • ChaotC Chaot

                                    @Glasfaser
                                    Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                    Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                    Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                    Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                    Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                    Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                    Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

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                                    liv-in-sky
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @Chaot kann ich bestätigen - habe eine powerwalker 650vi - da sind es ungefähr 12-15 W - nervt mich auch aber usv wollte ich immer haben

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                                    • liv-in-skyL liv-in-sky

                                      @Chaot kann ich bestätigen - habe eine powerwalker 650vi - da sind es ungefähr 12-15 W - nervt mich auch aber usv wollte ich immer haben

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #29

                                      @liv-in-sky @Glasfaser Ich danke euch für die schnelle Antwort.
                                      Dann werde ich wohl meine Hauselektrik etwas ändern müssen damit sich die USV rechnet.
                                      Nur für den NUC wäre mir das dann eindeutig Verschwendung.

                                      Die Powerwalker hatte ich auch im Auge, aber ich hoffe das ich mir eventuell zum Black Friday eine APC holen kann. Die wäre mir deutlich lieber, da ich die Dinger von der Arbeit in- und auswendig kenne.

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                                      • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                                        @Röstkartoffel sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                        {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                        Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?

                                        Das ist : CSS Gradient • Verlauf als Hintergrundbild

                                        Die anderen Widget sind auch so im Background eingestellt .

                                        -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)
                                        

                                        1.JPG

                                        Als Beispiel :

                                        1.JPG

                                        -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#090909 100%)
                                        

                                        2.JPG

                                        -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#faf334 100%)
                                        

                                        1.JPG

                                        -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #faf334 0%,#948fdb 55%)
                                        
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                                        Röstkartoffel
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #30

                                        @Glasfaser
                                        Danke.
                                        Aber z.B. die Datenpunkte "nut.0.status.charging" und "nut.0.status.overload" wechseln doch nur von false auf true, daher verstehe ich das mit dem Gradient (Verlauf) nicht.
                                        Ich habe testweise mal die Einstellung für Background auf "false" bei beiden geändert und damit sieht das VIS wie erwartet so aus:
                                        USV Stati.png

                                        Benutzt du immer diese Widget-Einstellung, auch wenn der Datenpunkt nur ein boolischer Wert ist?

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                                        • ChaotC Chaot

                                          @liv-in-sky @Glasfaser Ich danke euch für die schnelle Antwort.
                                          Dann werde ich wohl meine Hauselektrik etwas ändern müssen damit sich die USV rechnet.
                                          Nur für den NUC wäre mir das dann eindeutig Verschwendung.

                                          Die Powerwalker hatte ich auch im Auge, aber ich hoffe das ich mir eventuell zum Black Friday eine APC holen kann. Die wäre mir deutlich lieber, da ich die Dinger von der Arbeit in- und auswendig kenne.

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                                          @Chaot wenn man apc kennt , würde ich es wohl auch machen - die powerwalker war letzte woche im angebot und hat sich ganz schön aufgemuckt, bevor sie in nut funktionieren wollte

                                          nach einem gelösten Thread wäre es sinnvoll dies in der Überschrift des ersten Posts einzutragen [gelöst]-... Bitte benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat. Forum-Tools: PicPick https://picpick.app/en/download/ und ScreenToGif https://www.screentogif.com/downloads.html

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