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  • M MartyBr

    @lonsimbt
    Wie hast du den nut-Server unter Proxmox installiert? Direkt mit SSH drauf? Gibt es ein Repository dafür oder liegt der Server direkt erreichbar über das Debian-Repository?

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    @MartyBr
    Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

    apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
    

    Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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    • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

    Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

    Gruß Marco

    iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
    debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
    40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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    • L lonsimbt

      @MartyBr
      Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

      apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
      

      Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

      • Link Text

      • Link Text

      • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

      Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

      Gruß Marco

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      @lonsimbt

      Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

      Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

      Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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        Bild APC:


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        In den Datenpunkten :

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        Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

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        ( Synology mit der USV verbunden )


        Datenpunkte können für Skripts / Widget genutzt werden

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        @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

        @saeft_2003

        Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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        Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

        Gruß Ralf
        Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

        Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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          @MartyBr
          Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

          apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
          

          Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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          • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

          Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

          Gruß Marco

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          @lonsimbt
          Danke, damit komme ich weiter. Vielen Dank auch für die Links.

          Gruß
          Martin


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          Raspeberry mit USB Leseköpfen für Smartmeter
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            @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

            @saeft_2003

            Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

            1.JPG

            Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

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            @Nashra

            Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

            Synology 918+ 16GB - ioBroker in Docker v9 , VISO auf Trekstor Primebook C13 13,3" , Hikvision Domkameras mit Surveillance Station .. CCU RaspberryMatic in Synology VM .. Zigbee CC2538+CC2592 .. Sonoff .. KNX .. Modbus ..

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              @Nashra

              Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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              @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

              @Nashra

              Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

              Danke :+1:

              Gruß Ralf
              Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

              Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                @lonsimbt

                Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

                Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

                Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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                @saeft_2003
                Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

                iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
                debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
                40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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                  Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

                  Gruß Ralf
                  Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                  Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                    Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

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                    @Nashra

                    Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                    2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

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                      @saeft_2003
                      Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

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                      @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                      Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                      Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                      Grüße Andreas

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                        @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                        Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                        Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                        Grüße Andreas

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                        @weimaraner proxmox ist ja auch nur ein linux server - über terminal console apt install ....

                        nach einem gelösten Thread wäre es sinnvoll dies in der Überschrift des ersten Posts einzutragen [gelöst]-... Bitte benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat. Forum-Tools: PicPick https://picpick.app/en/download/ und ScreenToGif https://www.screentogif.com/downloads.html

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                          @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                          Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                          Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                          Grüße Andreas

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                          @weimaraner
                          Wie @liv-in-sky schreibt entweder per ssh auf dem proxmox-Server einloggen oder über das WebUI auf den Server-Knoten gehen und da die Shell aufrufen. Dort via apt install ... den benötigten Pakete installieren.

                          bd17937f-4c57-4f37-ad12-b17148fdf8ca-grafik.png

                          iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
                          debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
                          40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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                            @Nashra

                            Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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                            @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                            @Nashra

                            Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                            Moin.
                            Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                            Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                            {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                            

                            Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                            Danke.

                            NUC7i3BNH mit Proxmox und ioBroker (VM Debian Buster), Raspi3 (Slave Smartmeter für eHZ easymeter), Hardware CCU2, SMA SB5000TL-21

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                              @Nashra

                              Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                              2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

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                              @saeft_2003 sagte in Frage zu USV:

                              @Nashra

                              Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                              2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

                              Probleme war eigentlich nur wodurch geteilt wird, Blockly hatte ich schon versucht.
                              Aber trotzdem Danke :+1:

                              Gruß Ralf
                              Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                              Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                                @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                @Nashra

                                Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                                Moin.
                                Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                                Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                                {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                

                                Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                                Danke.

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                                wrote on last edited by Glasfaser
                                #25

                                @Röstkartoffel sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?

                                Das ist : CSS Gradient • Verlauf als Hintergrundbild

                                Die anderen Widget sind auch so im Background eingestellt .

                                -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)
                                

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                                Als Beispiel :

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                                -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#090909 100%)
                                

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                                -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#faf334 100%)
                                

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                                -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #faf334 0%,#948fdb 55%)
                                

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                                • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                                  @saeft_2003

                                  Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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                                  Widget:

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                                  Bild APC:


                                  APC_BKR900SCH_01.png

                                  In den Datenpunkten :

                                  2.JPG

                                  Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

                                  3.JPG

                                  ( Synology mit der USV verbunden )


                                  Datenpunkte können für Skripts / Widget genutzt werden

                                  4.JPG

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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @Glasfaser
                                  Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                  Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                  Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                  Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                  Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                  Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                  Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

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                                  • ChaotC Chaot

                                    @Glasfaser
                                    Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                    Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                    Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                    Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                    Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                    Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                    Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

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                                    Glasfaser
                                    wrote on last edited by Glasfaser
                                    #27

                                    @Chaot

                                    Meine APC Back UPS PRO USV 900VA ( BR900G-GR ) verbraucht 24/7 ca. 7 W .
                                    Bei dem Test/Erhaltungsladung geht der Verbrauch natürlich kurz hoch .

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                                    • ChaotC Chaot

                                      @Glasfaser
                                      Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                      Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                      Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                      Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                      Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                      Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                      Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

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                                      liv-in-sky
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                                      @Chaot kann ich bestätigen - habe eine powerwalker 650vi - da sind es ungefähr 12-15 W - nervt mich auch aber usv wollte ich immer haben

                                      nach einem gelösten Thread wäre es sinnvoll dies in der Überschrift des ersten Posts einzutragen [gelöst]-... Bitte benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat. Forum-Tools: PicPick https://picpick.app/en/download/ und ScreenToGif https://www.screentogif.com/downloads.html

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                                      • liv-in-skyL liv-in-sky

                                        @Chaot kann ich bestätigen - habe eine powerwalker 650vi - da sind es ungefähr 12-15 W - nervt mich auch aber usv wollte ich immer haben

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #29

                                        @liv-in-sky @Glasfaser Ich danke euch für die schnelle Antwort.
                                        Dann werde ich wohl meine Hauselektrik etwas ändern müssen damit sich die USV rechnet.
                                        Nur für den NUC wäre mir das dann eindeutig Verschwendung.

                                        Die Powerwalker hatte ich auch im Auge, aber ich hoffe das ich mir eventuell zum Black Friday eine APC holen kann. Die wäre mir deutlich lieber, da ich die Dinger von der Arbeit in- und auswendig kenne.

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                                        • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                                          @Röstkartoffel sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                          {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                          Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?

                                          Das ist : CSS Gradient • Verlauf als Hintergrundbild

                                          Die anderen Widget sind auch so im Background eingestellt .

                                          -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)
                                          

                                          1.JPG

                                          Als Beispiel :

                                          1.JPG

                                          -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#090909 100%)
                                          

                                          2.JPG

                                          -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#faf334 100%)
                                          

                                          1.JPG

                                          -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #faf334 0%,#948fdb 55%)
                                          
                                          RöstkartoffelR Offline
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                                          Röstkartoffel
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #30

                                          @Glasfaser
                                          Danke.
                                          Aber z.B. die Datenpunkte "nut.0.status.charging" und "nut.0.status.overload" wechseln doch nur von false auf true, daher verstehe ich das mit dem Gradient (Verlauf) nicht.
                                          Ich habe testweise mal die Einstellung für Background auf "false" bei beiden geändert und damit sieht das VIS wie erwartet so aus:
                                          USV Stati.png

                                          Benutzt du immer diese Widget-Einstellung, auch wenn der Datenpunkt nur ein boolischer Wert ist?

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