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    lonsimbt
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    Ich habe ebenfalls meine USV (allerdings nicht APC) an meinem Heimserver (proxmox u.a. mit iobroker) hängen. Direkt unter proxmox läuft der nut-Server und fährt wenn nötig proxmox (und damit auch alle virtuellen Maschinen/Container) herunter. Alle anderen Rechner, die an der USV hängen, werden über einen nut-client heruntergefahren oder hart ausgeschaltet (FritzBox, WLAN-AP).

    Vergleichbares sollte mit nut/apcd auch für eine APC USV möglich sein.

    Mein iobrokers nut-Adapter fragt nur zur Information und Visualisierung den Zustand der USV ab.

    Die diskstation sollte sich m.E. auch über einen geeigneten Client, der den nut oder apcd Server-Prozess abfragt, herunterfahren lassen.

    iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
    debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
    40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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    • L lonsimbt

      Ich habe ebenfalls meine USV (allerdings nicht APC) an meinem Heimserver (proxmox u.a. mit iobroker) hängen. Direkt unter proxmox läuft der nut-Server und fährt wenn nötig proxmox (und damit auch alle virtuellen Maschinen/Container) herunter. Alle anderen Rechner, die an der USV hängen, werden über einen nut-client heruntergefahren oder hart ausgeschaltet (FritzBox, WLAN-AP).

      Vergleichbares sollte mit nut/apcd auch für eine APC USV möglich sein.

      Mein iobrokers nut-Adapter fragt nur zur Information und Visualisierung den Zustand der USV ab.

      Die diskstation sollte sich m.E. auch über einen geeigneten Client, der den nut oder apcd Server-Prozess abfragt, herunterfahren lassen.

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      MartyBr
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      @lonsimbt
      Wie hast du den nut-Server unter Proxmox installiert? Direkt mit SSH drauf? Gibt es ein Repository dafür oder liegt der Server direkt erreichbar über das Debian-Repository?

      Gruß
      Martin


      Intel NUCs mit Proxmox / Iobroker als VM unter Debian
      Raspeberry mit USB Leseköpfen für Smartmeter
      Homematic und Homematic IP

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        OstfrieseUnterwegs
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        Ich habe auch die Konstellation wie @lonsimbt
        Mit SSH auf den proxmox host und den nut-server drauf installieren. nut.client auf allen anderen. Dann kann man konfigurieren bei welchem zustaned die 'clients' runtergefahren werden, und wann der server. Auch die Reihenfolge kann festgelegt werden. iobroker vor sql Server etc.
        In ioBroker kann man mit dem NUT Adapter alles überwachen.

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        • M MartyBr

          @lonsimbt
          Wie hast du den nut-Server unter Proxmox installiert? Direkt mit SSH drauf? Gibt es ein Repository dafür oder liegt der Server direkt erreichbar über das Debian-Repository?

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          lonsimbt
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          @MartyBr
          Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

          apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
          

          Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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          • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

          Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

          Gruß Marco

          iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
          debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
          40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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          • L lonsimbt

            @MartyBr
            Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

            apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
            

            Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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            • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

            Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

            Gruß Marco

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            @lonsimbt

            Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

            Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

            Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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              Bild APC:


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              In den Datenpunkten :

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              Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

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              ( Synology mit der USV verbunden )


              Datenpunkte können für Skripts / Widget genutzt werden

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              @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

              @saeft_2003

              Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

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              Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

              Gruß Ralf
              Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

              Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                @MartyBr
                Genau, in der pve Konsole oder über ssh via apt die benötigten Pakete installieren:

                apt install  nut-client nut-server usbutils
                

                Ich habe mich bei der Erstinstallation an diesen Anleitungen orientiert:

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                • auch in c't 2/2013 auf Seite 162 gab es einen Praxisartikel dazu.

                Ob in Deinem Fall nut oder der apcd der richtige Weg ist, kann ich aber nicht beurteilen.

                Gruß Marco

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                @lonsimbt
                Danke, damit komme ich weiter. Vielen Dank auch für die Links.

                Gruß
                Martin


                Intel NUCs mit Proxmox / Iobroker als VM unter Debian
                Raspeberry mit USB Leseköpfen für Smartmeter
                Homematic und Homematic IP

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                  @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                  @saeft_2003

                  Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

                  1.JPG

                  Hallo @Glasfaser würdest Du diesen VIS-Bereich zur verfügung stellen?

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                  @Nashra

                  Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                  Synology 918+ 16GB - ioBroker in Docker v9 , VISO auf Trekstor Primebook C13 13,3" , Hikvision Domkameras mit Surveillance Station .. CCU RaspberryMatic in Synology VM .. Zigbee CC2538+CC2592 .. Sonoff .. KNX .. Modbus ..

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                  • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                    @Nashra

                    Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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                    @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                    @Nashra

                    Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                    Danke :+1:

                    Gruß Ralf
                    Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                    Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                    • S saeft_2003

                      @lonsimbt

                      Verstehe ich folgendes richtig?

                      Ich habe eine proxmox vm laufen auf dieser läuft nur der nut Server und hat über den USB port Verbindung zur USV. Dann muss ich über ssh in der pve konsole nut client installieren und wenn Batterie auf low geht fährt der Server automatisch den Client runter?

                      Und wie sieht es mit der Diskstation aus, kann ich auf dieser auch den nut client installieren?

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                      @saeft_2003
                      Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

                      iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
                      debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
                      40 HomeMatic Geräte, Phillips Hue, Ikea Tradfri, Logitech Harmony Hub, Botvac Connected, Robonect

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                        Nashra
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                        Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

                        Gruß Ralf
                        Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                        Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                        • NashraN Nashra

                          Moin @Glasfaser wie hast Du die Akkulaufzeit umgerechnet, kenn mich mit js leider nicht aus

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                          @Nashra

                          Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

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                          • L lonsimbt

                            @saeft_2003
                            Man kann den nut-Server sicher auch in einer VM laufen lassen. Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert. Dann spart man sich mögliche Probleme mit dem Durchschleifen des USB-Ports etc.

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                            @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                            Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                            Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                            Grüße Andreas

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                            • W weimaraner

                              @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                              Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                              Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                              Grüße Andreas

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                              #21

                              @weimaraner proxmox ist ja auch nur ein linux server - über terminal console apt install ....

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                              • W weimaraner

                                @lonsimbt sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                Ich habe ihn aber direkt in der proxmox-Maschine installiert

                                Wo macht man das in proxmox genau?

                                Grüße Andreas

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                                lonsimbt
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                                #22

                                @weimaraner
                                Wie @liv-in-sky schreibt entweder per ssh auf dem proxmox-Server einloggen oder über das WebUI auf den Server-Knoten gehen und da die Shell aufrufen. Dort via apt install ... den benötigten Pakete installieren.

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                                iobroker im Container (debian Bullseye) unter proxmox 7.1
                                debmatic in VM (debian Buster) unter proxmox 7.1 mit HB-RF-USB und RPI-RF-MOD
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                                • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                                  @Nashra

                                  Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

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                                  Röstkartoffel
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                                  #23

                                  @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                  @Nashra

                                  Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                                  Moin.
                                  Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                                  Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                                  {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                  

                                  Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                                  Danke.

                                  NUC7i3BNH mit Proxmox und ioBroker (VM Debian Buster), Raspi3 (Slave Smartmeter für eHZ easymeter), Hardware CCU2, SMA SB5000TL-21

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                                  • S saeft_2003

                                    @Nashra

                                    Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

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                                    #24

                                    @saeft_2003 sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                    @Nashra

                                    Kann ich dir auch beantworten. Ist ganz easy mit blockly. So bekommst du min.

                                    2C61E3DB-C899-4C4D-BF52-983860C37253.jpeg

                                    Probleme war eigentlich nur wodurch geteilt wird, Blockly hatte ich schon versucht.
                                    Aber trotzdem Danke :+1:

                                    Gruß Ralf
                                    Mir egal, wer Dein Vater ist! Wenn ich hier angel, wird nicht übers Wasser gelaufen!!

                                    Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

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                                    • RöstkartoffelR Röstkartoffel

                                      @Glasfaser sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                      @Nashra

                                      Widget , wurde oben angefügt !

                                      Moin.
                                      Ich habe das Widget importiert und passe es gerade an meine USV an.
                                      Da fiel mir folgender Eintrag für den Hintergrund der Batterieladungsanzeige auf:

                                      {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                      

                                      Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?
                                      Danke.

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                                      Glasfaser
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                                      #25

                                      @Röstkartoffel sagte in Frage zu USV:

                                      {b:nut.0.status.charging;b=="true" ? "green" : "-webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)"}
                                      Binding Funktionen sind mir klar, aber magst du mir erklären, was es mit dem "-webkit-linear-gradient" auf sich hat?

                                      Das ist : CSS Gradient • Verlauf als Hintergrundbild

                                      Die anderen Widget sind auch so im Background eingestellt .

                                      -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #272727 0%,#090909 100%)
                                      

                                      1.JPG

                                      Als Beispiel :

                                      1.JPG

                                      -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#090909 100%)
                                      

                                      2.JPG

                                      -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #6584c2 0%,#faf334 100%)
                                      

                                      1.JPG

                                      -webkit-linear-gradient(-45deg, #faf334 0%,#948fdb 55%)
                                      

                                      Synology 918+ 16GB - ioBroker in Docker v9 , VISO auf Trekstor Primebook C13 13,3" , Hikvision Domkameras mit Surveillance Station .. CCU RaspberryMatic in Synology VM .. Zigbee CC2538+CC2592 .. Sonoff .. KNX .. Modbus ..

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                                      • GlasfaserG Glasfaser

                                        @saeft_2003

                                        Sieht dann in VIS so aus::

                                        1.JPG

                                        Widget:

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                                        Kann von der Synology weitergereicht werden !

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                                        ( Synology mit der USV verbunden )


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                                        ChaotC Offline
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                                        @Glasfaser
                                        Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                        Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                        Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                        Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                        Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                        Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                        Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

                                        ioBroker auf NUC unter Proxmox; VIS: 12" Touchscreen und 17" Touch; Lichtsteuerung, Thermometer und Sensoren: Tasmota (39); Ambiente Beleuchtung: WLED (9); Heizung: DECT Thermostate (9) an Fritz 6690; EMS-ESP; 1 Echo V2; 3 Echo DOT; 1 Echo Connect; 2 Echo Show 5; Unifi Ap-Ac Lite.

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                                          @Glasfaser
                                          Darf ich auch zur USV eine Frage stellen die jetzt mit dem Problem nicht unbedingt etwas zu tun hat?

                                          Ich überlege seit längerem mir ebenfalls eine USV zuzulegen.
                                          Allerdings bin ich immer wieder über den Stromverbrauch gestolpert.
                                          Wieviel Stom verbraucht die USV selbst?
                                          Mein NUC verbraucht recht sparsame 9 W im Dauerbetrieb. Wenn ich den jetzt an eine USV hänge die selbst 8 - 10 W eigenverbrauch hat würde ich ja den Stromverbrauch verdoppeln.
                                          Oder sind die 8-10 W die ich immer wieder finde kein realer Wert?
                                          Hat das schon jemand von euch nachgemessen und bei welcher USV genau?

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                                          Glasfaser
                                          wrote on last edited by Glasfaser
                                          #27

                                          @Chaot

                                          Meine APC Back UPS PRO USV 900VA ( BR900G-GR ) verbraucht 24/7 ca. 7 W .
                                          Bei dem Test/Erhaltungsladung geht der Verbrauch natürlich kurz hoch .

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