Adapter: iobroker.backitup (stable Release)

Saschag

Sorry, Entschuldige :smirk:

Das Log gibt nicht anderes her.

Wenn ich jetzt im Vis das Backup anstosse kommt leider auch nichts im Log und es wird kein Backup erstellt.

![Bild Text] Bildschirmfoto 2019-02-27 um 20.25.50.png (Bild Link)

[DEBUG] [minimal] start with {"type":"creator","time":"02:00","debugging":true,"everyXDays":"1","deleteBackupAfter":0,"mysqlEnabled":false,"redisEnabled":false,"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"****","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"dir":"/opt/iobroker","redis":{"enabled":false,"type":"creator","ftp":{"enabled":false,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","host":"","deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total","user":"","pass":"","port":"21"},"cifs":{"enabled":false,"mountType":"NFS","type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","mount":"","fileDir":"/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.backitup","wakeOnLAN":false,"macAd":"20:DE:20:DE:20:DE","wolTime":"25","smb":"vers=1.0","sudo":false,"deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"sharename/backupDir","dirMinimal":"sharename/backupDir","dirTotal":"sharename/backupDir","user":"","pass":""},"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"8f68lJm2dFEAAAAAAAAhVb7o3NEkPqAYMIe9NfTk9syx8tnRFBf5KV16mhqtxOg3","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"path":"/var/lib/redis"},"history":{"enabled":true,"type":"message","entriesNumber":"25","systemLang":"de"},"telegram":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longTelegramNotice","User":null,"onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"email":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","NoticeType":"longEmailNotice","emailReceiver":"xxx@xxx.com","emailSender":"xxx@xxx.com","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"pushover":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"pushover.0","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longPushoverNotice","deviceID":"iPhoneSascha","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"backupDir":"/opt/iobroker/backups"}

hast Du noch eine Idee für mich :white_frowning_face: :relaxed:

simatec

@Saschag

Geh mal bitte in die Einstellungen von backitup und stoße das backup mal über den Button an.
Stelle dabei oben rechts im Fenster auf mehr und unten den Haken raus bei schließen wenn fertig.

Danach poste mal die Logausgabe in dem Fenster

Saschag

@simatec

rechts oben gibt es bei mir nicht :smirk:

aber hier das Log

Gestartet...
[DEBUG] [minimal] start with {"type":"creator","time":"02:00","debugging":true,"everyXDays":"1","deleteBackupAfter":0,"mysqlEnabled":false,"redisEnabled":false,"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"****","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"dir":"/opt/iobroker","redis":{"enabled":false,"type":"creator","ftp":{"enabled":false,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","host":"","deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total","user":"","pass":"","port":"21"},"cifs":{"enabled":false,"mountType":"NFS","type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","mount":"","fileDir":"/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.backitup","wakeOnLAN":false,"macAd":"20:DE:20:DE:20:DE","wolTime":"25","smb":"vers=1.0","sudo":false,"deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"sharename/backupDir","dirMinimal":"sharename/backupDir","dirTotal":"sharename/backupDir","user":"","pass":""},"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"8f68lJm2dFEAAAAAAAAhVb7o3NEkPqAYMIe9NfTk9syx8tnRFBf5KV16mhqtxOg3","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"path":"/var/lib/redis"},"history":{"enabled":true,"type":"message","entriesNumber":"25","systemLang":"de"},"telegram":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longTelegramNotice","User":null,"onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"email":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","NoticeType":"longEmailNotice","emailReceiver":"xxx@xxx.com","emailSender":"xxx@xxx.com","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"pushover":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"pushover.0","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longPushoverNotice","deviceID":"iPhoneSascha","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"backupDir":"/opt/iobroker/backups"}
[ERROR] [minimal] - events.js:183
      throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
      ^

Error: listen EADDRINUSE 127.0.0.1:9001
    at Server.setupListenHandle [as _listen2] (net.js:1360:14)
    at listenInCluster (net.js:1401:12)
    at doListen (net.js:1510:7)
    at _combinedTickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:142:11)
    at process._tickCallback (internal/process/next_tick.js:181:9)

[DEBUG] [minimal] - done
[DEBUG] [dropbox] start with {"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"****","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total","deleteBackupAfter":0}
[ERROR] [dropbox] - File "/opt/iobroker/backups/minimal_2019_02_27-21_23_38_backupiobroker.tar.gz" not found
[DEBUG] [dropbox] - done
[DEBUG] [clean] start with {"deleteBackupAfter":0}
[DEBUG] [clean] - done
[DEBUG] [pushover] start with {"type":"creator","time":"02:00","debugging":true,"everyXDays":"1","deleteBackupAfter":0,"mysqlEnabled":false,"redisEnabled":false,"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"****","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"dir":"/opt/iobroker","redis":{"enabled":false,"type":"creator","ftp":{"enabled":false,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","host":"","deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total","user":"","pass":"","port":"21"},"cifs":{"enabled":false,"mountType":"NFS","type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","mount":"","fileDir":"/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.backitup","wakeOnLAN":false,"macAd":"20:DE:20:DE:20:DE","wolTime":"25","smb":"vers=1.0","sudo":false,"deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"sharename/backupDir","dirMinimal":"sharename/backupDir","dirTotal":"sharename/backupDir","user":"","pass":""},"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"8f68lJm2dFEAAAAAAAAhVb7o3NEkPqAYMIe9NfTk9syx8tnRFBf5KV16mhqtxOg3","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"path":"/var/lib/redis"},"history":{"enabled":true,"type":"message","entriesNumber":"25","systemLang":"de"},"telegram":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longTelegramNotice","User":null,"onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"email":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","NoticeType":"longEmailNotice","emailReceiver":"xxx@xxx.com","emailSender":"xxx@xxx.com","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"pushover":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"pushover.0","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longPushoverNotice","deviceID":"iPhoneSascha","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de","time":"27. Februar 2019 um 21:23 Uhr"},"backupDir":"/opt/iobroker/backups"}
[DEBUG] [pushover] - [minimal] used pushover-Instance: pushover.0
[DEBUG] [pushover] - done
[DEBUG] [history] start with {"type":"creator","time":"02:00","debugging":true,"everyXDays":"1","deleteBackupAfter":0,"mysqlEnabled":false,"redisEnabled":false,"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"****","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"dir":"/opt/iobroker","redis":{"enabled":false,"type":"creator","ftp":{"enabled":false,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","host":"","deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total","user":"","pass":"","port":"21"},"cifs":{"enabled":false,"mountType":"NFS","type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","mount":"","fileDir":"/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.backitup","wakeOnLAN":false,"macAd":"20:DE:20:DE:20:DE","wolTime":"25","smb":"vers=1.0","sudo":false,"deleteOldBackup":false,"ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"sharename/backupDir","dirMinimal":"sharename/backupDir","dirTotal":"sharename/backupDir","user":"","pass":""},"dropbox":{"enabled":true,"type":"storage","source":"Dropbox","deleteOldBackup":false,"accessToken":"8f68lJm2dFEAAAAAAAAhVb7o3NEkPqAYMIe9NfTk9syx8tnRFBf5KV16mhqtxOg3","ownDir":false,"bkpType":"Minimal","dir":"/backupDir","dirMinimal":"/backupDir/minimal","dirTotal":"/backupDir/total"},"path":"/var/lib/redis"},"history":{"enabled":true,"type":"message","entriesNumber":"25","systemLang":"de","time":"27. Februar 2019 um 21:23 Uhr"},"telegram":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longTelegramNotice","User":null,"onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"email":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"","NoticeType":"longEmailNotice","emailReceiver":"xxx@xxx.com","emailSender":"xxx@xxx.com","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"pushover":{"enabled":true,"notificationsType":"Pushover","type":"message","instance":"pushover.0","SilentNotice":false,"NoticeType":"longPushoverNotice","deviceID":"iPhoneSascha","onlyError":false,"systemLang":"de"},"backupDir":"/opt/iobroker/backups"}
[DEBUG] [history] - done
[EXIT] 1

simatec

@Saschag

Ohhh da scheint bei dir was kaputt zu sein.
Gib mal den backup Befehl von iobroker in der Konsole ein.

sudo iobroker backup

Kommt der Fehler da auch?

Saschag

@simatec

simatec

@Saschag

Lösche mal die Instanz und danach den Adapter
Installiere ihn danach mal neu.

Eventuell ist irgendwas beschädigt, denn die Fehlermeldung hat eigentlich nix mit backitup zu tun.
Was hast du für Versionen von node, nodejs, npm ubd js-Controller laufen?

Saschag

@simatec

Npm 6.4.1
Node 8.15.0
Ja-Controller 1.4.2

Heute Nacht haben alle drei Backups normal geklappt.

Vielen Dank schon mal!!

befürchte das der PI auch zu klein wird oder die SD-Karte kaputt geht! Wenn ich mir die immer öfters kommen Fehler „Reconnection DB“ anschaue. 😢

passuff

Musste gerade feststellen, dass der automatische komplett Backup seit einem Monat nicht mehr funktioniert. Habe es gerade manuell versucht. Er bleibt direkt hängen. Im log ist nichts ersichtlicht. Habe latest drauf, alle anderen Backups funktionieren. Wenn ich die Option Stop iobroker rausnehme, läuft es einwandfrei. Hat sich hier vor einem Monat etwas geändert?

simatec

@passuff
Hast du Version 1.1.2 drauf?
Wie alt ist deine iobroker Installation?

passuff

iobroker habe ich im November installiert. backitup ist latest (1.1.2)

Ich glaube die Lösung gefunden zu haben:

https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/18097/sudo-iobroker-stop-start/2

Homoran

@passuff
Nach deinem anderen Thread in dem iobroker stop nicht funktionierte, solltest du mal den Fixer laufen lassen.
Dann wird auch backitup wieder laufen

Segway

Mal eine Rückmeldung --> LÄUFT :+1: :relaxed: :+1:

simatec

Installiere den Fix für den Installer laut Anleitung ...

https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/20211/iobroker-installation-fixer-beta-verfügbar

passuff

@Homoran @simatec

Läuft nun wieder,
Danke!

Saschag

@simatec

Danke für die Geduld!! Habe jetzt das Log richtig eingestellt :relieved:

Gestern hatten wieder alle drei geklappt, heute nicht und auch nicht per Hand (im Vis per oneclick)

backitup.0	2019-03-02 09:03:34.446	debug	system.adapter.admin.0: logging true
backitup.0	2019-03-02 09:03:34.445	debug	redis pmessage io.*.logging io.system.adapter.admin.0.logging {"val":true,"ack":true,"ts":1551513814439,"q":0,"from":"system.adapter.admin.0","lc":1551513814439}
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:49:02.758	info	instance system.adapter.tvspielfilm.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
tvspielfilm.0	2019-03-02 08:49:02.229	info	force terminating adapter after 1 minute
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:48:43.891	debug	system.adapter.admin.0: logging true
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:48:43.890	debug	redis pmessage io.*.logging io.system.adapter.admin.0.logging {"val":true,"ack":true,"ts":1551512923883,"q":0,"from":"system.adapter.admin.0","lc":1551512923883}
web.0	2019-03-02 08:46:57.918	info	==>Connected system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.150
web.0	2019-03-02 08:46:44.953	info	<==Disconnect system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.150 vis.0
web.0	2019-03-02 08:45:59.067	info	<==Disconnect system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206 vis.0
web.0	2019-03-02 08:45:51.768	info	==>Connected system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:45:13.554	debug	[total] 10 00 03 */3 * *
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:45:13.554	info	[total] backup was activated at 03:00 every 3 day(s)
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:45:13.554	debug	[ccu] 10 30 01 */3 * *
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:45:13.553	info	[ccu] backup was activated at 01:30 every 3 day(s)
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:45:13.553	debug	[minimal] 10 00 02 */1 * *
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:45:13.553	info	[minimal] backup was activated at 02:00 every 1 day(s)
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:45:13.477	info	starting. Version 1.1.2 in /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.backitup, node: v8.15.0
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:45:11.814	info	instance system.adapter.backitup.0 started with pid 9692
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:45:04.263	info	instance system.adapter.dwd.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
dwd.0	2019-03-02 08:45:03.353	info	starting. Version 2.4.3 in /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.dwd, node: v8.15.0
javascript.0	2019-03-02 08:45:00.554	info	script.js.Homematic.Sevicemeldungen: Anzahl Homematic-Servicemeldungen: 0
javascript.0	2019-03-02 08:45:00.554	info	script.js.Homematic.Sevicemeldungen: Homematic-Servicemeldungen:
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:45:00.118	info	instance system.adapter.dwd.0 started with pid 9680
web.0	2019-03-02 08:44:58.922	info	<==Disconnect system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206 vis.0
web.0	2019-03-02 08:44:50.985	info	<==Disconnect system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206 vis.0
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:44:41.743	info	Restart adapter system.adapter.backitup.0 because enabled
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:44:41.743	error	instance system.adapter.backitup.0 terminated with code null ()
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:44:41.736	warn	instance system.adapter.backitup.0 terminated due to SIGKILL
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:44:38.955	debug	[total/total] Packed 92MB so far...
web.0	2019-03-02 08:44:37.100	info	==>Connected system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206
web.0	2019-03-02 08:44:34.597	info	<==Disconnect system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206 vis.0
web.0	2019-03-02 08:44:32.070	info	==>Connected system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:44:28.826	debug	[total/total] Packed 86MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:44:18.825	debug	[total/total] Packed 83MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:44:08.823	debug	[total/total] Packed 79MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:43:58.821	debug	[total/total] Packed 76MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:43:48.734	debug	[total/total] Packed 74MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:43:38.731	debug	[total/total] Packed 66MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:43:28.730	debug	[total/total] Packed 58MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:43:18.728	debug	[total/total] Packed 53MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:43:08.726	debug	[total/total] Packed 48MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:58.723	debug	[total/total] Packed 41MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:53.183	debug	redis pmessage io.backitup.0.oneClick.* io.backitup.0.oneClick.minimal {"val":true,"ack":false,"ts":1551512573179,"q":0,"from":"system.adapter.web.0","lc":1551512573179}
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:48.721	debug	[total/total] Packed 30MB so far...
web.0	2019-03-02 08:42:43.891	info	==>Connected system.user.admin from ::ffff:192.168.0.206
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:38.719	debug	[total/total] Packed 24MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:28.715	debug	[total/total] Packed 21MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:25.078	debug	redis pmessage io.backitup.0.oneClick.* io.backitup.0.oneClick.total {"val":false,"ack":true,"ts":1551512545076,"q":0,"from":"system.adapter.admin.0","lc":1551512545076}
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:18.713	debug	[total/total] Packed 14MB so far...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:10.586	debug	redis pmessage io.backitup.0.oneClick.* io.backitup.0.oneClick.total {"val":true,"ack":false,"ts":1551512530581,"q":0,"from":"system.adapter.admin.0","lc":1551405610034}
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:08.713	debug	[total/total] Ignore dir: /opt/iobroker/backups
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:08.712	debug	[total/total] TAR started...
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:42:07.598	debug	redis pmessage io.backitup.0.oneClick.* io.backitup.0.oneClick.total {"val":true,"ack":false,"ts":1551512527596,"q":0,"from":"system.adapter.admin.0","lc":1551405610034}
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:54.116	debug	redis pmessage io.backitup.0.oneClick.* io.backitup.0.oneClick.minimal {"val":false,"ack":true,"ts":1551512514113,"q":0,"from":"system.adapter.admin.0","lc":1551512514113}
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:09.077	debug	[total] 10 00 03 */3 * *
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:09.073	info	[total] backup was activated at 03:00 every 3 day(s)
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:09.073	debug	[ccu] 10 30 01 */3 * *
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:09.064	info	[ccu] backup was activated at 01:30 every 3 day(s)
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:09.064	debug	[minimal] 10 00 02 */1 * *
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:09.034	info	[minimal] backup was activated at 02:00 every 1 day(s)
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:09.004	info	starting. Version 1.1.2 in /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.backitup, node: v8.15.0
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:08.799	info	States connected to redis: 127.0.0.1:6379
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:08.792	debug	statesDB connected
backitup.0	2019-03-02 08:41:08.748	debug	objectDB connected
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:41:07.254	info	instance system.adapter.backitup.0 started with pid 9417
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:41:05.240	info	instance system.adapter.backitup.0 terminated with code 0 (OK)
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:41:04.700	info	stopInstance system.adapter.backitup.0 killing pid 843
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:41:04.699	info	stopInstance system.adapter.backitup.0
host.ioBroker-RasPi	2019-03-02 08:41:04.698	info	object change system.adapter.backitup.

Vielen vielen Dank schon mal

simatec

@Saschag

Hast du iobroker gestoppt vor dem backup?
Falls nicht, probiere es damit mal ...

Saschag

@simatec

nein, habe es mal über die Konsole gemacht

simatec

@Saschag

Aber das ist ein minimal Backup und kein total ... also nicht vergleichbar

Saschag

@simatec

Okay, aber das minimal hatte ja auch nicht geklappt. Irgendwie Steig ich nicht mehr durch😢

simatec

@Saschag sagte in Adapter: iobroker.backitup (stable Release):

@simatec

Okay, aber das minimal hatte ja auch nicht geklappt. Irgendwie Steig ich nicht mehr durch😢

Hast du dein System bzw. deine SD mal geprüft?
Du hattest geschrieben, dass da irgendwas defekt ist.
Wenn backitup auf die sd nicht schreiben kann, kann solch ein Fehler auch auftreten

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