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      Habe es nun hinbekommen, dimmen, schalten und verschiedene Flows 🙂

      Werde die Flows mal anhängen als Vorlage

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        TorbenNW last edited by TorbenNW

        Da inzwischen ja noch ein paar Fragen über die FB Gruppe kommen hier mal meine Scripte, aktuell getestet: heute 😉

        Rollladensteuerung hoch/runter/prozent
        Flow-ganz.gif
        Einstellung "Ändern Node"
        Flow-aendern.gif
        Einstellung "Umrechnen Node"
        Flow-umrechnen.gif
        Kompletter Node

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                "func": "msg.bri = msg.bri / 255 * 100\nmsg.bri = Math.round (msg.bri)\nvar newMsg = { payload: msg.bri };\nreturn newMsg;",
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                        "t": "change",
                        "p": "payload",
                        "pt": "msg",
                        "from": "on",
                        "fromt": "str",
                        "to": "0",
                        "tot": "num"
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                    {
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        Einstellungen Alexa Routine für hoch/runter:
        je 1 Routine anlegen die den Node Rolladen Küche hoch/runter anspricht. Einmal mit "eingeschaltet", einmal mit "ausgeschaltet". Hier wird dann komplett hoch oder runter gefahren (0 oder 100)

        Prozentstop
        "Alexa, Rolladen Küche auf 75 Prozent" fährt den Rolladen Küche auf die gewünschte Prozentzahl

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          TorbenNW last edited by TorbenNW

          Heizungssteuerung
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          Einstellungen "Umrechnen"
          Heizung-umrechnen.png
          *Kompletter Node"

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            MarEhg last edited by

            Hallo, ich habe mittlerweile auch meine Lampen und Dimmer steuerbar. Danke an die ganze Vorarbeit!

            Mein Frage:
            Ist es möglich, eine ioBroker Variable (Object) mit Alexa zu steuern?

            Meine Vorstellung:

            Gerät liefert über msg.payload --> ON und OFF.

            Ich möchte aus ON eine 3
            und aus OFF eine 0 machen.

            1. Wie bekomme ich es hin, dass in der Alexa-APP bei einer 3 auch der Schalter der Lampe auf EIN steht,
              bei ungleich 3 aber auf AUS gesetzt wird.
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              TorbenNW @MarEhg last edited by

              @MarEhg
              Also aus ON eine 3 bzw. OFF eine 0 geht mit dem Change Node und dies dann an ioBroker weitergeben

              Zu 1.: was meinst du mit Alexa-App?

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                MarEhg @TorbenNW last edited by MarEhg

                @TorbenNW Das mit den On zu 3 und Off zu 0 habe ich natürlich hinbekommen.
                Die Variable wird auch entsprechend abgeändert. Wenn ich aber die Variable über einen anderen Weg
                verändere, wird in der Alexa-App auf meinem MobilePhone der Status nicht korrigiert.
                Da ja immer Lampen als Geräte gefunden werden, wäre ein wert ungleich 3 für dieses Gerät AUS.
                Ändere ich den Wert z.B. über mein Tablet, bleibt die 'Lampe' auf AN.

                Alexa-App = AmazonAlexa App auf meinem iPhone

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                  MarEhg last edited by

                  Ist hier niemand mehr aktiv?

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                    TorbenNW @MarEhg last edited by

                    @MarEhg doch aber ich verstehe nich, wieso man eine weiteren Datenpunkt so anlegen sollte 😉
                    Ansonsten einen Blockly erstellen der auf die 3 bei Änderung triggert und dann entsprechend das on/off wieder ändert

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                    • smarteule
                      smarteule last edited by

                      Hallo Gemeinde,

                      seit meinem heutigen Update node.js 10.19.0. funktioniert Eure schöne Anleitung mit node-red-contrib-amazon-echo nicht mehr.

                      43452584-f035-4e81-87f2-37800290ae9e-image.png

                      Es besteht keine Verbindung mehr zu Alexa.

                      Hat jemand eine Ahnung, was man tun kann? Liegt das an der Palette?

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                      • haselchen
                        haselchen Most Active @smarteule last edited by

                        @smarteule

                        Fixer drüber laufen lassen

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                        • smarteule
                          smarteule last edited by

                          Okay, werde ich dann gleich einmal probieren.

                          Danke

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                            smarteule last edited by smarteule

                            Okay super. Das hat funktioniert, aber ein anderes Problem ist noch offen.
                            Der tab-javascript wird nicht angezeigt, wenn ich allerdings den admin auf "http" einstelle, funktioniert es. Unter "https" geht es nicht.
                            Aber ich glaube das gehört in eine andere Rubrik. Werde es unter Error/Bug noch einmal schreiben.

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                              Brokinger last edited by Brokinger

                              Sorry wenn ich da nochmal nachhake, ich stehe kurz vor einer Neueinrichtung.

                              Wenn ich es richtig verstanden habe muss ich für den cloudfreien Betrieb das Node "contrib-amazon-echo" verwenden ?!?
                              Was ich nicht mehr neueren Datums erlesen konnte - funzt denn ein dot3 oder muss ich einen Echo/Dot Gen2 (ohne +) kaufen ?

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                                stefande @Brokinger last edited by

                                @Brokinger
                                Ja contrib-amazon-echo ist richtig und bei mir funzen die dot3

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                                  SmartiesHome last edited by

                                  @Brokinger
                                  Ich habe es auch endlich die Kommunikation am Laufen mit Echo-Dot3.Gen und Node "contrib-amazon-echo".
                                  Lösungsansatz, der Node-red / Adapter bekommt root-Rechte.

                                  Für mich als Neuling (seit 2Wochen) war es nicht einfach. Ich habe hier viel ..viel lesen müssen, aber gut 😌

                                  Kurze Hilfestellung für alle Gleich-Gesinnten😁
                                  Ich habe mich hier nach orientiert, hatte mir sehr geholfen:
                                  https://github.com/ioBroker/ioBroker.node-red/issues/47

                                  Folgendes habe ich gemacht:

                                  1. Den "fixer laufen lassen
                                    https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/20211/iobroker-installation-fixer-beta-verfügbar
                                  2. Node.js aktualisiert auf 12.16.1
                                  3. NPM aktualisier auf 6.14.2
                                  umbm created this issue in ioBroker/ioBroker.node-red

                                  closed Adapter als root ausführen möglich? #47

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                                    Brokinger last edited by

                                    Hallo Ihr Beiden,
                                    Vielen Dank für die Rückantworten.
                                    Ich habe heute meine Dot3.Gen auch erhalten und sogleich damit begonnen über IoBroker und Node-red eine Steckdose einzubinden und zu schalten, es geht - TOP !
                                    @SmartiesHome: Danke für den github-Link, nach dem fixer waren Erfolge zu verzeichnen 👍
                                    Was mir allerdings etwas Sorgen macht, so ganz out off Cloud ist das Ganze aufgrund der App doch nicht.
                                    Werd mich noch entscheiden müssen, ob ich den Weg so weiter gehe.

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                                      TorbenNW last edited by

                                      Welche App meinst du?
                                      Bis auf den Trigger bei Amazon hast du alles selbst unter Kontrolle was passiert. Die komplette Datenverarbeitung bleibt bei dir Zuhause.

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                                        Brokinger last edited by

                                        Ich meine die Alexa App.
                                        Über diese App suche ich ja nach neuen Geräte für die "Alexa"-Dot3, welche ich zuvor in IoBroker angelegt habe. Meine Dot3 kennt anschliesend diese Geräte und steuert bei Voiceübereinstimmung über den Namen an.
                                        Oder liege ich da ganz falsch ?
                                        Nun stellt sich mir eben die Frage, wohin die Verbindung Dot3 über App noch telefoniert ?

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                                        • SmartiesHome
                                          SmartiesHome @Brokinger last edited by

                                          @Brokinger das ist eine gute und interessante Frage.

                                          Ich habe noch etwas interessantes festgestellt:
                                          Zu dem Zeitpunkt, wo die Kommunikation zum Echo-Dot3 noch NICHT funktionierte, wegen dem Port80, konnte ich ABER über den Echo-1.Gen. eine Kommunikation herstellen.
                                          D.h. Wenn man direkt dem Echo1.Gen sagte "suche neue Geräte" hatte er die in node-red angelegten Einträge gefunden !!
                                          Diese neuen Geräte wurden NICHT in der ALEXA-App angezeigt.
                                          Die Suche "neuer Geräte" fand zu dem Zeitpunkt keine "neuen Geräte, nur der Ech1.Gen fand sie.

                                          Warum der Echo1.Gen die Geräte fand war mir schon klar, aber dass sie nicht in der App angezeit wurden fand ich doch sehr interresant.

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                                            Hi all,
                                            Ich lese mich gerade in das Thema ein und finde die Echo anbindung via NodeRed immer besser. Problem.
                                            Ich habe ZWAVE Fibaro Rolladen und müsste einen Targetlevel zwischen 0 und 99 ansteuern.
                                            Derzeit kann ich das nur on und off übergeben.
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                                            Habe also per Fkt. versucht den Wert zu ändern. klappt aber nicht. Mache ich was falsch?
                                            Ist die Ansteuerung via Alexa2 Adapter und Routinen besser?
                                            Stehe ein bischen an!

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