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      albi_63 last edited by

      Hy
      Wie checke ich das?
      Wenn ich auf meinem Browser die IP xxxx:3000 eingebe wird die Seite geladen, allerdings sind keine Werte ersichtlich in den Diagrammen. Wenn ich auf die Grafik gehe sagt er mir Network error: Bad Gateway

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      • crunchip
        crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @albi_63 last edited by

        @albi_63 sagte in Influx DB abgelehnt:

        Browser die IP xxxx:3000 eingebe

        Grafana

        @albi_63 sagte in Influx DB abgelehnt:

        Wie checke ich das

        wo läuft deine Influx? Dort gibst du ein

        sudo systemctl status influxdb
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          albi_63 @crunchip last edited by

          @crunchip
          Die läuft auf meinem Raspi4
          Folgendes kommt zurück

          pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl status influxdb
● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series databa
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset:
   Active: activating (start) since Mon 2021-08-09 19:53:39 CEST; 869ms ago
     Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
Cntrl PID: 3868 (influxd-systemd)
    Tasks: 14 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
           ├─3868 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.s
           ├─3869 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
           └─3898 sleep 1

Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:5
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:5
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:5
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● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series database
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: activating (start) since Mon 2021-08-09 19:53:39 CEST; 869ms ago
     Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
Cntrl PID: 3868 (influxd-systemd)
    Tasks: 14 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
           ├─3868 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.sh
           ├─3869 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
           └─3898 sleep 1

Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.030148Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard" log_id=0
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.034577Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard" log_id=0
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.038945Z lvl=info msg="Opened file" log_id=0V
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.039547Z lvl=info msg="Opened file" log_id=0V
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.069378Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard" log_id=0
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.073503Z lvl=info msg="Opened file" log_id=0V
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.109773Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard" log_id=0
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.111716Z lvl=info msg="Opened file" log_id=0V
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.112566Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard" log_id=0
Aug 09 19:53:40 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[3868]: ts=2021-08-09T17:53:40.113951Z lvl=info msg="Opened file" log_id=0V
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            crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @albi_63 last edited by

            @albi_63

            sudo systemctl start influxdb

            und danach nochmal

            sudo systemctl status influxdb
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              albi_63 @crunchip last edited by

              @crunchip

              pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl start influxdb
Job for influxdb.service failed because the control process exited with error co                                de.
See "systemctl status influxdb.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $

              pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl status influxdb
● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series database
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: activating (start) since Mon 2021-08-09 20:03:10 CEST; 4s ago
     Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
Cntrl PID: 9061 (influxd-systemd)
    Tasks: 14 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
           ├─9061 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.sh
           ├─9062 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
           └─9117 sleep 1

Aug 09 20:03:11 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:11.987162Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:11 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:11.988535Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:11 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:11.990493Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:11 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:11.992701Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:12 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:12.011117Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:12 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:12.013498Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:12 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:12.026994Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:12 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:12.033842Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:12 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:12.530789Z lvl=info msg="Opene
Aug 09 20:03:14 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[9061]: ts=2021-08-09T18:03:14.776764Z lvl=info msg="Readi
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              • crunchip
                crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @albi_63 last edited by

                @albi_63 welche version von influx läuft da?

                apt policy influxdb
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                  albi_63 @crunchip last edited by

                  @crunchip

                  pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ apt policy influxdb
influxdb:
  Installiert:           1.8.9-1
  Installationskandidat: 1.8.9-1
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 1.8.9-1 500
        500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian buster/stable armhf Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1.6.4-1+deb10u1 500
        500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/main armhf Packages
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $
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                  • crunchip
                    crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @albi_63 last edited by

                    @albi_63 ok passt
                    probier mal nach der Reihe, eins nach dem anderen

                    sudo systemctl stop influxdb
sudo systemctl daemon-reload
sudo systemctl unmask influxdb.service
sudo systemctl enable influxdb
sudo systemctl start influxdb
sudo systemctl status influxdb
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                      Thomas Braun Most Active @albi_63 last edited by Thomas Braun

                      @albi_63

                      Und woher kommt dann eine influxdb.0 v1.9.5 ?

                      (Edith:) Sorry, war die Adapterversion...

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                        crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Thomas Braun last edited by

                        @thomas-braun der Adapter

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                          albi_63 @crunchip last edited by

                          @crunchip
                          Kriege denselben Fehler beim Start

                          pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl stop influxdb
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl daemon-reload
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl unmask influxdb.service
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl enable influxdb
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl start influxdb
Job for influxdb.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
See "systemctl status influxdb.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $
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                            crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @albi_63 last edited by crunchip

                            @albi_63 sagte in Influx DB abgelehnt:

                            Job for influxdb.service failed because the control process exited with error code.

                            ich erinnere mich, es gab nach dem update beim PI ne Änderung, siehe https://www.reddit.com/r/influxdb/comments/ovulei/cant_start_influxdb_after_last_update/

                            sudo chown -R influxdb:influxdb /usr/lib/influxdb
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                              albi_63 @crunchip last edited by

                              @crunchip
                              ich starte mal den pi neu
                              Habe deinen Befehl mal abgesetzt mit folgendere Mldung

                              pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo chown -R influxdb:influxdb /usr/lib/influxdb
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl status influxdb
● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series databa
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset:
   Active: activating (start) since Mon 2021-08-09 20:30:32 CEST; 7s ago
     Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
Cntrl PID: 23741 (influxd-systemd)
    Tasks: 14 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
           ├─23741 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.
           ├─23742 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
           └─23809 sleep 1

Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:
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● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series database
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: activating (start) since Mon 2021-08-09 20:30:32 CEST; 7s ago
     Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
Cntrl PID: 23741 (influxd-systemd)
    Tasks: 14 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
           ├─23741 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.sh
           ├─23742 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
           └─23809 sleep 1

Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.169851Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.172000Z lvl=info msg="Opened file"
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.182599Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.186909Z lvl=info msg="Opened file"
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.210084Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.211484Z lvl=info msg="Opened file"
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.216219Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.226941Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard
Aug 09 20:30:34 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:34.715741Z lvl=info msg="Opened shard
Aug 09 20:30:36 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[23741]: ts=2021-08-09T18:30:36.901402Z lvl=info msg="Reading file
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                                @crunchip
                                Aktuells LOG

                                pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo service grafana-server stop
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo service grafana-server start
pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo service grafana-server status
● grafana-server.service - Grafana instance
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/grafana-server.service; enabled; vend
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-08-09 20:37:49 CEST; 41s ago
     Docs: http://docs.grafana.org
 Main PID: 4403 (grafana-server)
    Tasks: 12 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/grafana-server.service
           └─4403 /usr/sbin/grafana-server --config=/etc/grafana/grafana.ini --p

Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 l
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● grafana-server.service - Grafana instance
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/grafana-server.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-08-09 20:37:49 CEST; 41s ago
     Docs: http://docs.grafana.org
 Main PID: 4403 (grafana-server)
    Tasks: 12 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/grafana-server.service
           └─4403 /usr/sbin/grafana-server --config=/etc/grafana/grafana.ini --pidfile=/var/run/grafan

Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Initializ
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Initializ
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Initializ
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Initializ
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Initializ
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Initializ
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Backend r
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=warn msg="phantomJS
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="Initializ
Aug 09 20:37:50 raspberrypi-4 grafana-server[4403]: t=2021-08-09T20:37:50+0200 lvl=info msg="HTTP Serv
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                                  @crunchip

                                  pi@raspberrypi-4:~ $ sudo systemctl status influxdb
● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series database
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: activating (start) since Mon 2021-08-09 20:42:24 CEST; 608ms ago
     Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
Cntrl PID: 6850 (influxd-systemd)
    Tasks: 14 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
           ├─6850 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.sh
           ├─6851 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
           └─6881 sleep 1

Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.853626Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.854913Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.867937Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.869383Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.874605Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.876170Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.897106Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.898455Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 influxd-systemd-start.sh[6850]: ts=2021-08-09T18:42:24.910176Z lvl=info
Aug 09 20:42:24 raspberrypi-4 infl
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                                    crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @albi_63 last edited by crunchip

                                    @albi_63 da läuft es doch nun
                                    edit
                                    grafana
                                    aber dein influx noch nicht

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                                      https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/46664/influxdb-startet-nach-update-nicht-mehr-31-01-20121?_=1628533276974

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                                        @crunchip
                                        Leider nein
                                        Der Server läuft aber ich bekomme im IoBroker immer

                                        influxdb.0
	2021-08-09 20:48:18.754	error	Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:8086
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                                          crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @Guest last edited by

                                          @blechsoldat haben wir doch schon gemacht

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                                            crunchip Forum Testing Most Active @albi_63 last edited by crunchip

                                            @albi_63 sagte in Influx DB abgelehnt:

                                            Der Server läuft

                                            mich stört aber das

                                            @albi_63 sagte in Influx DB abgelehnt:

                                            Active: activating (start) since Mon 2021-08-09 20:42:24 CEST; 608ms ago

                                            sollte so aussehen

                                             Active: active (running) since Sat 2021-08-07 07:47:32 CEST; 2 days ago

                                            guck dir mal das an https://community.influxdata.com/t/influxdb-1-8-7-will-not-start/20965/4

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