Mathematik in Blockly - was übersehe ich?
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@paul53
Hm. Ich habe einen DP mit einem Wert von z.B. 85%, während die Formel m.E. davon ausgeht, dass da eine Angabe "85" stünde.
Daher habe ich bisher noch nicht zusätzlich mit /100 hantiert. -
@bertderkleine sagte: Wert von z.B. 85%
Dann muss mit 0,85 multipliziert werden. Der Dampfdruck kann nicht höher sein als der Sättigungsdampfdruck.
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@paul53
Danke Dir für den Anstoss. Es lag tatsächlich an dieser 100er Sache.Irgendwie deutet das Blockly den DP, der in Objekten als 85% angezeigt wird als 85 und daher braucht es in der Formel dann auch die /100.
In meinem Excel muss ich die /100 weglassen, wenn ich 85% (also 0,85) reinfüttere. Da darf ich die /100 nur nutzen, wenn ich wirklich 85 reinschiebe.
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@bertderkleine sagte in Mathematik in Blockly - was übersehe ich?:
Irgendwie deutet das Blockly den DP, der in Objekten als 85% angezeigt wird als 85
natürlich!
der Wert ist 85, egal ob dahinter Gramm, Kilometer oder %steht -
@bertderkleine sagte in Mathematik in Blockly - was übersehe ich?:
der in Objekten als 85% angezeigt
Weil das ja auch nur die Anzeige ist.
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Magst du vom. Fertigen blockly mal ein Export einstellen?
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Hier bitte:
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@bertderkleine sagte in Mathematik in Blockly - was übersehe ich?:
erfüllt aber auch den Zweck:
naja, kommt auf dden Zweck an.
Diese Ausgabe kann man aber nicht mehr nach Blockly wandeln um sie dort anzupassen. -
@bertderkleine
Bitte XML nur zusätzlich (im Spoiler) mitliefern. Nicht jeder mag das erstmal importieren, um zu sehen was da Sache ist.Blockly bitte primär immer als Screenshot.
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@codierknecht
Hat er doch oder? Den Code hat er mir auf Nachfrage gesendet. -
@david-g sagte in Mathematik in Blockly - was übersehe ich?:
Hat er doch oder? Den Code hat er mir auf Nachfrage gesendet.
@David-G @BertDerKleine
Sorry, glatt übersehen
Asche auf mein Haupt.
