Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0)

Gaspode

@uwerlp said in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

Habe ich noch nicht ausgeführt. Bei gestoppten ioBroker oder bei laufendem ausführen?

Bei gestopptem. Wenn es nicht eilt evtl. mal warten, ob @foxriver76 noch eine Idee hat, was man gucken kann.

Thomas Braun

@uwerlp

Schau auch mal in
c:\iobroker\package.json
rein. Oder wo auch immer die erste package.json bei Windows im tree liegt.

UweRLP

@gaspode sagte in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

@uwerlp said in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

Habe ich noch nicht ausgeführt. Bei gestoppten ioBroker oder bei laufendem ausführen?

Bei gestopptem. Wenn es nicht eilt evtl. mal warten, ob @foxriver76 noch eine Idee hat, was man gucken kann.

Alles klar ich warte, scheint ja auch soweit alles zu funktionieren

@thomas-braun sagte in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

@uwerlp

Schau auch mal in
c:\iobroker\package.json
rein. Oder wo auch immer die erste package.json bei Windows im tree liegt.

c:\iobroker\package.json

{
  "name": "iobroker.inst",
  "version": "4.1.11",
  "private": true,
  "description": "Automation platform in node.js",
  "scripts": {
    "install-service": "node install.js",
    "uninstall-service": "node uninstall.js"
  },
  "dependencies": {
    "fs-extra": "^10.1.0",
    "iobroker.admin": "stable",
    "iobroker.air-q": "1.0.3",
    "iobroker.alexa2": "3.26.5",
    "iobroker.alias-manager": "1.2.6",
    "iobroker.backitup": "stable",
    "iobroker.deconz": "1.4.1",
    "iobroker.devices": "1.1.5",
    "iobroker.discovery": "stable",
    "iobroker.echarts": "1.8.4",
    "iobroker.email": "1.3.1",
    "iobroker.energiefluss-erweitert": "0.4.1",
    "iobroker.enigma2": "2.1.1",
    "iobroker.fullybrowser": "3.0.12",
    "iobroker.harmony": "1.5.0",
    "iobroker.hm-rega": "4.0.0",
    "iobroker.hm-rpc": "1.17.0",
    "iobroker.homee": "1.2.0",
    "iobroker.hs100": "2.2.0",
    "iobroker.icons-eclipse-smarthome-classic": "1.0.0",
    "iobroker.info": "2.0.0",
    "iobroker.iot": "3.3.0",
    "iobroker.javascript": "8.6.0",
    "iobroker.js-controller": "stable",
    "iobroker.mielecloudservice": "6.5.6",
    "iobroker.notification-manager": "1.1.2",
    "iobroker.nut": "1.6.0",
    "iobroker.philips-air": "1.1.0",
    "iobroker.ping": "1.6.2",
    "iobroker.pushover": "3.0.6",
    "iobroker.reolink": "1.1.0",
    "iobroker.rflink": "2.1.12",
    "iobroker.sayit": "4.0.1",
    "iobroker.scenes": "3.2.1",
    "iobroker.shelly": "7.0.0",
    "iobroker.simple-api": "2.8.0",
    "iobroker.socketio": "6.7.0",
    "iobroker.sql": "3.0.1",
    "iobroker.tado": "0.5.4",
    "iobroker.tibberlink": "3.3.2",
    "iobroker.tr-064": "4.3.0",
    "iobroker.tuya": "3.15.0",
    "iobroker.vis": "1.5.6",
    "iobroker.vis-canvas-gauges": "1.0.1",
    "iobroker.vis-colorpicker": "2.0.3",
    "iobroker.vis-fancyswitch": "1.1.0",
    "iobroker.vis-google-fonts": "1.0.4",
    "iobroker.vis-hqwidgets": "1.5.1",
    "iobroker.vis-inventwo": "3.3.4",
    "iobroker.vis-jqui-mfd": "1.1.1",
    "iobroker.vis-rgraph": "0.0.2",
    "iobroker.vis-timeandweather": "1.2.2",
    "iobroker.vw-connect": "0.6.0",
    "iobroker.web": "6.2.6",
    "iobroker.ws": "2.6.1",
    "iobroker.yamaha": "0.5.4",
    "semver": "^7.3.7",
    "yargs": "^17.5.1"
  },
  "optionalDependencies": {
    "dotenv": "^16.3.1",
    "node-windows": "^1.0.0-beta.8",
    "windows-shortcuts": "^0.1.6"
  },
  "engines": {
    "node": ">=12.0.0"
  },
  "overrides": {
    "@iobroker/adapter-core": "^3.1.6"
  }
}

Thomas Braun

@uwerlp

In Zeile 34 ist der Eintrag der für den Trouble sorgt. Ich weiß nur nicht wie und warum der da so steht.
In meiner Datei steht da auch eine Versionsnummer drin, wie bei den anderen Modulen halt auch:

echad@chet:/opt/iobroker $ jq . package.json 
{
  "name": "iobroker.inst",
  "version": "3.0.0",
  "private": true,
  "description": "Automate your Life",
  "engines": {
    "node": ">=16.0.0"
  },
  "dependencies": {
    "@iobroker-javascript.0/playactor": "npm:playactor@^0.4.1",
    "iobroker.admin": "6.17.14",
    "iobroker.alexa2": "3.26.5",
    "iobroker.alias-manager": "1.2.6",
    "iobroker.awtrix-light": "1.2.1",
    "iobroker.backitup": "3.0.5",
    "iobroker.ble": "0.14.0",
    "iobroker.cloud": "5.0.1",
    "iobroker.devices": "1.1.5",
    "iobroker.drops-weather": "github:inbux/ioBroker.drops-weather",
    "iobroker.echarts": "1.8.4",
    "iobroker.firetv": "2.1.0",
    "iobroker.followthesun": "0.5.0",
    "iobroker.govee-app": "github:TA2k/ioBroker.govee-app#6a0f84cfb34eb3a0ca647c7a519b9d5a48ccfb85",
    "iobroker.govee-local": "0.2.6",
    "iobroker.history": "3.0.1",
    "iobroker.ical": "1.15.0",
    "iobroker.iceroad": "1.2.1",
    "iobroker.iot": "3.3.0",
    "iobroker.javascript": "8.6.0",
    "iobroker.js-controller": "6.0.5",
    "iobroker.midea": "github:TA2k/ioBroker.midea#0d037c0c9a025b193546f881f747c8f998bfc724",
    "iobroker.mihome": "1.4.0",
    "iobroker.mihome-cloud": "0.1.1",
    "iobroker.mihome-vacuum": "4.2.0",
    "iobroker.mqtt": "5.2.0",
    "iobroker.nina": "0.0.26",
    "iobroker.nuki": "2.0.0",
    "iobroker.nuki-extended": "2.7.0",
    "iobroker.nut": "1.6.0",
    "iobroker.opendtu": "1.0.1",
    "iobroker.openweathermap": "1.0.4",
    "iobroker.parcel": "github:TA2k/ioBroker.parcel",
    "iobroker.rpi2": "2.0.0-alpha.10",
    "iobroker.sainlogic": "0.10.5",
    "iobroker.samsung": "0.6.0",
    "iobroker.samsung_tizen": "1.1.0",
    "iobroker.simple-api": "2.8.0",
    "iobroker.socketio": "6.7.0",
    "iobroker.switchbot-hub": "github:arteck/ioBroker.switchbot-hub#666f01f7e8b49322d68d63360322a9f11169911a",
    "iobroker.tado": "github:DrozmotiX/ioBroker.tado",
    "iobroker.tankerkoenig": "3.4.0",
    "iobroker.tr-064": "4.3.0",
    "iobroker.tradfri": "3.1.3",
    "iobroker.trashschedule": "3.3.0",
    "iobroker.tuya": "3.15.0",
    "iobroker.vis-2": "2.9.64",
    "iobroker.weather-warnings": "0.6.7",
    "iobroker.web": "6.2.6",
    "iobroker.whatsapp-cmb": "0.3.0",
    "iobroker.ws": "2.6.1",
    "iobroker.zigbee": "1.10.3"
  },
  "overrides": {
    "@iobroker/adapter-core": "^3.1.6"
  }
}

foxriver76

@gaspode ich denke es liegt an 6.0.5 ich kann mal die Tage noch eine Version zum Testen für Windows machen, evtl. Liegt es daran dass die pack kein auf Windows ein install Skript hat dass da mit läuft

UweRLP

@thomas-braun Ist mir auch aufgefallen das dort keine Versions Nr. angegeben ist sondern nur stable.
Welche müsste den nun in meinem Fall drin stehen? Die, die Vermutlich läuft also 6.0.4 oder doch 6.0.5?
Ich hab mal im Backup vor dem Upgrade nachgeschaut dort steht die Versionsnummer 6.0.4 drin.

Thomas Braun

@uwerlp
Keine Ahnung. Aber da 6.0.5 nicht als 'stable' getaggt ist kommt es da zum Konflikt, würde ich behaupten.

UweRLP

@thomas-braun sagte in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

@uwerlp
Keine Ahnung. Aber da 6.0.5 nicht als 'stable' getaggt ist kommt es da zum Konflikt, würde ich behaupten.

Ok, danke.

@foxriver76 sagte in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

@gaspode ich denke es liegt an 6.0.5 ich kann mal die Tage noch eine Version zum Testen für Windows machen, evtl. Liegt es daran dass die pack kein auf Windows ein install Skript hat dass da mit läuft

Stellt sich dann für mich die Frage ob ich bei der 6.0.5 bleiben soll oder erst mal zurück auf die 6.0.4?

Gaspode

@foxriver76
OK, Danke. Ich hab ja noch das leicht anders gelagerte Problem, dass mit "npm ls" alles gut aussieht, der Controller in node_modules aber nicht aktualisiert wird, wenn ich von 5.0.19 auf 6.0.5 aktualisiere. In dem Fall hilft dann auch kein "npm i", da npm der Meinung ist, alles ist in Ordnung.
Hier das Log:

C:\ioBroker\SmartHome>iob stop

=============================
Running Admin shell
=============================
ioBroker service name: iob_SmartHome
iob_SmartHome wird beendet.
iob_SmartHome wurde erfolgreich beendet.


C:\ioBroker\SmartHome>iob update
Used repository: beta
Adapter    "admin"        : 6.17.14  , installed 6.13.16 [Updatable]
Adapter    "backitup"     : 3.0.5    , installed 2.11.0 [Updatable]
Adapter    "discovery"    : 4.5.0    , installed 4.5.0
Controller "js-controller": 6.0.5    , installed 5.0.19 [Updatable]


C:\ioBroker\SmartHome>npm ls
iobroker.inst@3.0.0 C:\ioBroker\SmartHome
+-- dotenv@16.3.1
+-- iobroker.admin@6.13.16
+-- iobroker.backitup@2.11.0
+-- iobroker.discovery@4.5.0
+-- iobroker.js-controller@5.0.19
+-- node-windows@1.0.0-beta.8
`-- windows-shortcuts@0.1.6


C:\ioBroker\SmartHome>npm i iobroker.js-controller@6.0.5 --loglevel verbose
npm verbose cli C:\Program Files\nodejs\node.exe C:\Program Files\nodejs\node_modules\npm\bin\npm-cli.js
npm info using npm@10.7.0
npm info using node@v20.15.0
npm verbose title npm i iobroker.js-controller@6.0.5
npm verbose argv "i" "iobroker.js-controller@6.0.5" "--loglevel" "verbose"
npm verbose logfile logs-max:10 dir:C:\Users\XXXXXXX\AppData\Local\npm-cache\_logs\2024-06-22T08_15_22_681Z-
npm verbose logfile C:\Users\XXXXXXX\AppData\Local\npm-cache\_logs\2024-06-22T08_15_22_681Z-debug-0.log
npm verbose shrinkwrap failed to load node_modules/.package-lock.json out of date, updated: node_modules/iobroker.js-controller
npm http fetch GET 200 https://registry.npmjs.org/iobroker.js-controller 720ms (cache revalidated)
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npm info run iobroker.js-controller@6.0.5 install { code: 0, signal: null }

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npm verbose exit 0
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C:\ioBroker\SmartHome>npm ls
iobroker.inst@3.0.0 C:\ioBroker\SmartHome
+-- dotenv@16.3.1
+-- iobroker.admin@6.13.16
+-- iobroker.backitup@2.11.0
+-- iobroker.discovery@4.5.0
+-- iobroker.js-controller@6.0.5
+-- node-windows@1.0.0-beta.8
`-- windows-shortcuts@0.1.6

Die Dateien in node_modules\iobroker.js-controller sind aber noch die 5.0.19 Dateien. "npm update" und "npm i" hilft in diesem Fall nichts, nur die Installation einer anderen version, hier das Log:

C:\ioBroker\SmartHome>npm i iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4 --loglevel verbose
npm verbose cli C:\Program Files\nodejs\node.exe C:\Program Files\nodejs\node_modules\npm\bin\npm-cli.js
npm info using npm@10.7.0
npm info using node@v20.15.0
npm verbose title npm i iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4
npm verbose argv "i" "iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4" "--loglevel" "verbose"
npm verbose logfile logs-max:10 dir:C:\Users\XXXXXXX\AppData\Local\npm-cache\_logs\2024-06-22T08_27_02_067Z-
npm verbose logfile C:\Users\XXXXXXX\AppData\Local\npm-cache\_logs\2024-06-22T08_27_02_067Z-debug-0.log
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npm info run iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4 preinstall node_modules/iobroker.js-controller node build/esm/lib/preinstallCheck.js
npm info run iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4 preinstall { code: 0, signal: null }
npm info run iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4 install node_modules/iobroker.js-controller node iobroker.js setup first
npm info run iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4 install { code: 0, signal: null }

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npm verbose exit 0
npm info ok

Jetzt sind die Dateien der Version 6.0.4 da.

Wenn ich dann von diesem Stand auf 6.0.5 aktualisiere, ändern sich nur drei Dateien in node_modules\iobroker.js-controller:

io-package.json
package.json
build\tsconfig.build.tsbuildinfo

Kann das sein?

Nachtrag:
Eine Installation von 5.0.19 auf 6.0.5 mittels "iob upgrade self" führt auch dazu, dass die Dateien in node_modules NICHT aktualisiert werden. Zusätzlich kommt es zu dem "ELSPROBLEMS" Fehler:

C:\ioBroker\SmartHome>npm ls
npm error code ELSPROBLEMS
npm error invalid: iobroker.js-controller@5.0.19 C:\ioBroker\SmartHome\node_modules\iobroker.js-controller
iobroker.inst@3.0.0 C:\ioBroker\SmartHome
+-- dotenv@16.3.1
+-- iobroker.admin@6.13.16
+-- iobroker.backitup@2.11.0
+-- iobroker.discovery@4.5.0
+-- iobroker.js-controller@5.0.19 invalid: "6.0.5" from the root project
+-- node-windows@1.0.0-beta.8
`-- windows-shortcuts@0.1.6

Dieser Zustand kann per "npm i" korrigiert werden.

Gaspode

@foxriver76 said in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

ich denke es liegt an 6.0.5

Ich denke ich kann das inzwischen sicher bestätigen. Ich hab jetzt eine Testreihe gemacht und jeweils 5 Mal ausgehend von einem Backup von 5.0.19 auf 6.0.5 und 6.0.4 aktualisiert mit

npm i iobroker.js-controller@6.0.5 --loglevel verbose -ddd

bzw

npm i iobroker.js-controller@6.0.4 --loglevel verbose -ddd

Ergebnis immer gleich: "npm ls" zeigt korrekte Controller-Version, aber bei 6.0.5 werden die Dateien unter node_modules\iobroker.js-controller nicht aktualisiert, bei 6.0.4 werden sie aktualisiert.

In den Logs sehe ich jetzt nix, was mir auffällt und das erklären könnte.

Ergänzung:
Der npm "ELSPROBLEMS" Fehler scheint konsequent mit "iob upgrade self" auf die 6.0.5 zusammen zu hängen. Mit "npm i ..." hatte ich den Fehler nie, nur eben die veralteten Dateien. Ob die beiden Dinge jetzt den gleichen Grund haben - ich habe keine Ahnung.

Gaspode

@uwerlp said in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

Stellt sich dann für mich die Frage ob ich bei der 6.0.5 bleiben soll oder erst mal zurück auf die 6.0.4?

So wie ich das verstehe, ist das ja "nur" ein Installationsproblem. Ich denke nicht, dass was dagegen spricht, dass du per ...

npm i

... auf die 6.0.5 aktualisierst. Im aktuellen Zustand dürfte noch die 6.0.4 bei dir werkeln.

UweRLP

@gaspode Hatte gestern morgen die 6.0.4 zurück gespielt. Ich warte dann jetzt auf die nächste Version.

apollon77

versucht update mal mit "--ignore-scripts" ... gehts damit?

Gaspode

@apollon77 said in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

--ignore-scripts

Ja, damit werden die Files unter node_modules beim Update von 5.0.19 auf 6.0.5 aktualisiert.

npm i iobroker.js-controller@6.0.5 --ignore-scripts

Allerdings wird dann natürlich das lokale controller.js Script nicht aktualisiert, s. hier: https://github.com/ioBroker/ioBroker.js-controller/pull/2771/files

foxriver76

@gaspode mit 6.0.6 sollte auch Windows wieder problemlos aktualisieren. Zudem gab es noch Korrekturen für das Node.js Upgrade via Admin.

Gaspode

@foxriver76 said in Beta Test js-controller Kiera (v6.0):

@gaspode mit 6.0.6 sollte auch Windows wieder problemlos aktualisieren.

Gerade Upgrade von 5.0.19 auf 6.0.6 getestet, funktionierte problemlos.
Danke für die Korrektur!

ilovegym

@foxriver76

Die 6.0.6 laeuft im Docker einwandfrei, nur kam gerade n Schwung Messages vom Notifyer, dass mein BS einige Updates hat.. ja klar.. ist ja auch n Docker container.. kann man das deaktivieren oder auf ein Update des Dockers Image hinweisen?
Habe zur Zeit 9.1.2 installiert mit Node 18.20.3 und Node 10.8.1...

foxriver76

@ilovegym Du kannst diese mit dem notification-manager Adapter automatisch löschen lassen.

ilovegym

@foxriver76

hmm ist ja installiert, und hab nur das hier gefunden, wird nix automatisch geloescht.. oder?
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