[gelöst] Backitup - NAS ?

Marc Berg

Eventuell kannst du den Token per

http://<ip-asresse>:8086/api/v2/authorizations

auslesen. Vorher aber an der InfluxDB-Oberfläche anmelden. Wenn es dort mehrere Token gibt, dann ist es meist der an der ersten Stelle oder der mit dem ersten "createdAt" Attribut.

Thomas Braun

@Humidor sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

sudo service influxdb stop
fkt. nicht? service command not found?

Das muss eher

sudo systemctl stop influxdb

heißen.

Humidor

@Marc-Berg sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

http://<ip-asresse>:8086/api/v2/authorizations

ja das hat geklappt, spuckt aber auch nur die standard All Access Token aus und diese funktionieren nicht
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Humidor

@Thomas-Braun sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

sudo systemctl stop influxdb

im Terminal auf der Syno?
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Thomas Braun

@Humidor

Bitte Texte aus der Konsole NIE als Screenshot, IMMER als Text in CodeTags.

Marc Berg

@Humidor sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

ja das hat geklappt, spuckt aber auch nur die standard All Access Token aus und diese funktionieren nicht

Dann hast du den User gelöscht, mit dem damals bei der Erst-Einrichtung der Operator Token erstellt wurde. Damit verschwindet auch der Token.

Also muss der Operator Token neu erstellt werden:

https://github.com/simatec/ioBroker.backitup/wiki/Diverse-Anleitungen-für-ioBroker.backitup#operator-token-für-influxdb-2x-wiederherstellen

Humidor

@Marc-Berg Ja, das würde ich gerne, nur funktionieren die Befehle nicht, die da angeführt werden.

Humidor

gibt noch eine andere Möglichkeit der Herstelleung, bei der in der Doku laufen die Befehle ins leere ??

Thomas Braun

@Humidor sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

bei der in der Doku laufen die Befehle ins leere ??

Was genau treibst du da wo?

Humidor

@Thomas-Braun ich treibe mal überhaupt nix ;)
was ich mache habe ich dokumentiert.

die Befehle in der Doku funktionieren nicht im Terminal der Syno oder im Docker Terminal der influxdb.

Thomas Braun

@Humidor sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

die Befehle in der Doku funktionieren nicht im Terminal der Syno oder im Docker Terminal der influxdb.

Mit welchen Meldungen konkret?
'funktionieren nicht' ist keine Beschreibung dessen, was du da wo wie genau treibst.

Humidor

@Thomas-Braun

Docker - Terminal - Influx

root@influxdb:/# sudo service influxdb stop                                      
bash: sudo: command not found                                                    
root@influxdb:/#

Terminal - Syno

Richard@ds1621:~$ sudo service influxdb stop
Password: 
sudo: service: command not found
Richard@ds1621:~$

im Docker kann ich ja die Influx starten/stoppen
dann nur der Befehl aus dem Syno Terminal?

sudo influxd recovery auth create-operator --org <deine_org> --username <dein_user> --bolt-path /var/lib/influxdb2/influxd.bolt

Aber - influx kennt die Syno nicht, da es im Docker läuft.

Thomas Braun

@Humidor

Wenn du schon als root herumhüpfst braucht es natürlich kein sudo mehr...

Und das Kommando 'service' gibt es in modernen Setups nicht mehr. Hatte ich aber weiter oben bereits geschrieben...

Humidor

@Thomas-Braun

root@influxdb:/# influxd stop                                                     
Error: unknown command "stop" for "influxd"                                       
root@influxdb:/

influx läuft im docker auf der syno, ich kann diesen nicht stoppen und dann einen Befehl in Terminal absetzten.
dh es muss von außerhalb gemacht werden, aber wie kommt man auf den Docker Container rein? auch wenn dieser gestoppt wurde? gar nicht vermute ich mal.

Marc Berg

@Humidor sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

dh es muss von außerhalb gemacht werden

innerhalb des Containers:

su influxdb
cd /var/lib/influxdb2
cp influxd.bolt influxd2.bolt
influxd recovery auth create-operator --org <deine_org> --username <dein_user> --bolt-path /var/lib/influxdb2/influxd2.bolt
mv influxd2.bolt influxd.bolt

Container neustarten. Wenn etwas nicht funktioniert, ALLES zeigen (in Codetags).

Humidor

@Marc-Berg sagte in Backitup - NAS ?:

influxd recovery auth create-operator --org <deine_org> --username <dein_user> --bolt-path /var/lib/influxdb2/influxd2.bolt

root@influxdb:/# su influxdb                                                     
influxdb@influxdb:/$ cd /var/lib/influxdb2                                       
influxdb@influxdb:/var/lib/influxdb2$ cp influxd.bolt influxd2.bolt              
influxdb@influxdb:/var/lib/influxdb2$ influxd recovery auth create-operator --org
 iobroker_data --username iobroker --bolt-path /var/lib/influxdb2/influxd2.bolt  
2026-03-17T05:25:56.453443Z     info    Resources opened        {"log_id": "11fZy
dP0000", "system": "bolt-kvstore", "path": "/var/lib/influxdb2/influxd2.bolt"}   
Error: could not find org "iobroker_data": organization name "iobroker_data" not 
found                                                                            
See 'influxd -h' for help                                                        
influxdb@influxdb:/var/lib/influxdb2$

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Marc Berg

@Humidor

Du verwechselst Bucket mit Organization. Die organization steht u.a. inder Instanz-Konfiguration

Humidor

@Marc-Berg ohhh

root@influxdb:/# su influxdb                                                                                                        
influxdb@influxdb:/$ cd /var/lib/influxdb2                                                                                          
influxdb@influxdb:/var/lib/influxdb2$ cp influxd.bolt influxd2.bolt                                                                 
influxdb@influxdb:/var/lib/influxdb2$ influxd recovery auth create-operator --org                                                   
 private --username iobroker --bolt-path /var/lib/influxdb2/influxd2.bolt                                                           
2026-03-17T13:24:13.305151Z     info    Resources opened        {"log_id": "11f~L                                                   
9U0000", "system": "bolt-kvstore", "path": "/var/lib/influxdb2/influxd2.bolt"}                                                      
ID                      User Name       User ID                 Description     T                                                   
oken                                                                            P                                                   
ermissions                                                                                                                          
1065b092f71e7000        iobroker        0b40d64fd1337000        iobroker        G                                                   
xG_6HrDZhgMVq2SJI2IpmqjNoiXhJ3iNnHADnADmfVdosKzGt3UBj9F2PMKRHgnU_sr3VSV1BPX939KBf                                                   
gtCQ==  [read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/annotations write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/annot                                                   
ations read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/authorizations write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/auth                                                   
orizations read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/buckets write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/buckets                                                   
 read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/checks write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/checks read:orgs/3                                                   
cf840bcb0779b40/dashboards write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/dashboards read:orgs/3cf84                                                   
0bcb0779b40/dbrp write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/dbrp read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/docu                                                   
ments write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/documents read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/labels wri                                                   
te:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/labels read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/notebooks write:orgs/3                                                   
cf840bcb0779b40/notebooks read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/notificationEndpoints write:                                                   
orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/notificationEndpoints read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/notificati                                                   
onRules write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/notificationRules read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40                                                    
read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/remotes write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/remotes read:orgs/                                                   
3cf840bcb0779b40/replications write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/replications read:orgs/                                                   
3cf840bcb0779b40/scrapers write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/scrapers read:orgs/3cf840bc                                                   
b0779b40/secrets write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/secrets read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/s                                                   
ources write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/sources read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/tasks write                                                   
:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/tasks read:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/telegrafs write:orgs/3cf8                                                   
40bcb0779b40/telegrafs read:users/0b40d64fd1337000 write:users/0b40d64fd1337000 r                                                   
ead:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/variables write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/variables read:or                                                   
gs/3cf840bcb0779b40/views write:orgs/3cf840bcb0779b40/views]                                                                        
106afd525ebf8000        iobroker        0b40d64fd1337000        iobroker's Recove                                                   
ry Token        Wzu-RSNsbH3FXk853bmgreJXrnrdveggT7XFKbSXqMyYrj8NWmq-TbDPR4eyX391l                                                   
AOaauF0CFtAT6CLZrhjmQ== [read:authorizations write:authorizations read:buckets wr                                                   
ite:buckets read:dashboards write:dashboards read:orgs write:orgs read:sources wr                                                   
ite:sources read:tasks write:tasks read:telegrafs write:telegrafs read:users writ                                                   
e:users read:variables write:variables read:scrapers write:scrapers read:secrets                                                    
write:secrets read:labels write:labels read:views write:views read:documents writ                                                   
e:documents read:notificationRules write:notificationRules read:notificationEndpo                                                   
ints write:notificationEndpoints read:checks write:checks read:dbrp write:dbrp re                                                   
ad:notebooks write:notebooks read:annotations write:annotations read:remotes writ                                                   
e:remotes read:replications write:replications]                                                                                     
influxdb@influxdb:/var/lib/influxdb2$ mv influxd2.bolt influxd.bolt                                                                 
influxdb@influxdb:/var/lib/influxdb2$

es steht keine neuer drin:

{
	"links": {
		"self": "/api/v2/authorizations"
	},
	"authorizations": [
		{
			"id": "1065b092f71e7000",
			"token": "GxG_6HrDZhgMVq2SJI2IpmqjNoiXhJ3iNnHADnADmfVdosKzGt3UBj9F2PMKRHgnU_sr3VSV1BPX939KBfgtCQ==",
			"status": "active",
			"description": "iobroker",
			"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
			"org": "private",
			"userID": "0b40d64fd1337000",
			"user": "iobroker",
			"permissions": [
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "annotations",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "annotations",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "authorizations",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "authorizations",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "buckets",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "buckets",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "checks",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "checks",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "dashboards",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "dashboards",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "dbrp",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "dbrp",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "documents",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "documents",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "labels",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "labels",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "notebooks",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "notebooks",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "notificationEndpoints",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "notificationEndpoints",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "notificationRules",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "notificationRules",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "orgs",
						"id": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"name": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "remotes",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "remotes",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "replications",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "replications",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "scrapers",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "scrapers",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "secrets",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "secrets",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "sources",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "sources",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "tasks",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "tasks",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "telegrafs",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "telegrafs",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "users",
						"id": "0b40d64fd1337000",
						"name": "iobroker"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "users",
						"id": "0b40d64fd1337000",
						"name": "iobroker"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "variables",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "variables",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "read",
					"resource": {
						"type": "views",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				},
				{
					"action": "write",
					"resource": {
						"type": "views",
						"orgID": "3cf840bcb0779b40",
						"org": "private"
					}
				}
			],
			"links": {
				"self": "/api/v2/authorizations/1065b092f71e7000",
				"user": "/api/v2/users/0b40d64fd1337000"
			},
			"createdAt": "2026-03-13T11:36:30.044527627+01:00",
			"updatedAt": "2026-03-13T11:36:30.044527627+01:00"
		}
	]
}

OK brauchte einen Neustart der Container nun steht ein Recovery drin. Ich teste.

Jungs! läuft !!! ist schon bei 7GB 😳

sooo, 16GB influx gebackupt ! wow

Super, nun funktiniert wieder alles, ich bin happy und sage vielen Dank and euch für die Hilfe und Geduld! 👍👌🍾

Marc Berg

@Humidor sagte in [gelöst] Backitup - NAS ?:

sooo, 16GB influx gebackupt ! wow

Mindestens Faktor 100 zu groß. Schau mal hier ein, ob das auf dich zutrifft:

https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/73784/gelöst-speicherbelegung-influxdb2-nach-containerisierung

Humidor

@Marc-Berg Scraper ist keiner drin, beim Bucket size laden, lädt und lädt er......

nach fast 10min
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