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[influxDB] nach Rechnerumzug immer wieder ECONNREFUSED

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  • crunchipC crunchip

    @lukas8519 gehts um nen Neustart oder wie im Thread, ein Umzug

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    @crunchip
    lediglich ein Neustart..

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      @crunchip
      lediglich ein Neustart..

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      @lukas8519 also auch nicht das gleiche Problem!
      und zuvor lief alles?
      was hast du gemacht?
      ?
      ?
      ?

      umgestiegen von Proxmox auf Unraid

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      • crunchipC crunchip

        @lukas8519 also auch nicht das gleiche Problem!
        und zuvor lief alles?
        was hast du gemacht?
        ?
        ?
        ?

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        @crunchip
        leider Zähle ich mich zu den unwissenden in der ganzen Materie und bin ziemlich aufgeschmissen wenn etwas nicht läuft.

        Ich habe den Raspberry Pi heruntergefahren und ihn vom Strom getrennt und nach ca. einer halben Stunde wieder angeschlossen und nach dem Hochfahren kam der Fehler bei der Influxdb.
        Zuvor lief alles ohne Probleme.

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          @crunchip
          leider Zähle ich mich zu den unwissenden in der ganzen Materie und bin ziemlich aufgeschmissen wenn etwas nicht läuft.

          Ich habe den Raspberry Pi heruntergefahren und ihn vom Strom getrennt und nach ca. einer halben Stunde wieder angeschlossen und nach dem Hochfahren kam der Fehler bei der Influxdb.
          Zuvor lief alles ohne Probleme.

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          @lukas8519

          apt policy influxdb
          systmctl status influxdb
          

          Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
          https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
          NodeJS Fixer Skript:
          https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
          iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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            @lukas8519

            apt policy influxdb
            systmctl status influxdb
            
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            @thomas-braun sagte in [influxDB] nach Rechnerumzug immer wieder ECONNREFUSED:

            systmctl status influxdb

            pi@raspberrypi:~ $ apt policy influxdb
            influxdb:
              Installed: 1.8.9-1
              Candidate: 1.8.9-1
              Version table:
             *** 1.8.9-1 500
                    500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stretch/stable armhf Packages
                    100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
                 1.6.4-1+deb10u1 500
                    500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/main armhf Packages
            pi@raspberrypi:~ $ systmctl status influxdb
            -bash: systmctl: command not found
            
            
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              @thomas-braun sagte in [influxDB] nach Rechnerumzug immer wieder ECONNREFUSED:

              systmctl status influxdb

              pi@raspberrypi:~ $ apt policy influxdb
              influxdb:
                Installed: 1.8.9-1
                Candidate: 1.8.9-1
                Version table:
               *** 1.8.9-1 500
                      500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stretch/stable armhf Packages
                      100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
                   1.6.4-1+deb10u1 500
                      500 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/main armhf Packages
              pi@raspberrypi:~ $ systmctl status influxdb
              -bash: systmctl: command not found
              
              
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              @lukas8519
              Sorry

              systemctl status influxdb
              

              Fur influx ist das falsche Repo aktiv. Stretch ist falsch

              Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
              https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
              NodeJS Fixer Skript:
              https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
              iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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                @lukas8519
                Sorry

                systemctl status influxdb
                

                Fur influx ist das falsche Repo aktiv. Stretch ist falsch

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                @thomas-braun

                pi@raspberrypi:~ $ systemctl status influxdb
                ● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series databa
                   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset:
                   Active: activating (start) since Sun 2021-11-21 21:59:59 CET; 3s ago
                     Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
                Cntrl PID: 31988 (influxd-systemd)
                    Tasks: 13 (limit: 4915)
                   CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
                           ├─31988 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.
                           ├─31989 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
                           └─32040 sleep 1
                
                Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
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                Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
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                  @thomas-braun

                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ systemctl status influxdb
                  ● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series databa
                     Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset:
                     Active: activating (start) since Sun 2021-11-21 21:59:59 CET; 3s ago
                       Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
                  Cntrl PID: 31988 (influxd-systemd)
                      Tasks: 13 (limit: 4915)
                     CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
                             ├─31988 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.
                             ├─31989 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
                             └─32040 sleep 1
                  
                  Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                  Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                  Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
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                  Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
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                  @lukas8519

                  Erstmal deine Installationsquellen korrigieren.

                  Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
                  https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
                  NodeJS Fixer Skript:
                  https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
                  iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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                    @thomas-braun

                    pi@raspberrypi:~ $ systemctl status influxdb
                    ● influxdb.service - InfluxDB is an open-source, distributed, time series databa
                       Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/influxdb.service; enabled; vendor preset:
                       Active: activating (start) since Sun 2021-11-21 21:59:59 CET; 3s ago
                         Docs: https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/
                    Cntrl PID: 31988 (influxd-systemd)
                        Tasks: 13 (limit: 4915)
                       CGroup: /system.slice/influxdb.service
                               ├─31988 /bin/bash -e /usr/lib/influxdb/scripts/influxd-systemd-start.
                               ├─31989 /usr/bin/influxd -config /etc/influxdb/influxdb.conf
                               └─32040 sleep 1
                    
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
                    Nov 21 21:59:59 raspberrypi influxd-systemd-start.sh[31988]: ts=2021-11-21T20:59
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                    @lukas8519 sagte in [influxDB] nach Rechnerumzug immer wieder ECONNREFUSED:

                    activating

                    aktiviert läuft aber nicht

                    umgestiegen von Proxmox auf Unraid

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                    • Thomas BraunT Thomas Braun

                      @lukas8519
                      Sorry

                      systemctl status influxdb
                      

                      Fur influx ist das falsche Repo aktiv. Stretch ist falsch

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                      Fur influx ist das falsche Repo aktiv. Stretch ist falsch

                      Erstmal deine Installationsquellen korrigieren.

                      klingt gut! Leider weiß ich nicht wie ...

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                        Fur influx ist das falsche Repo aktiv. Stretch ist falsch

                        Erstmal deine Installationsquellen korrigieren.

                        klingt gut! Leider weiß ich nicht wie ...

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                        @lukas8519

                        https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stretch/stable
                        

                        Da muss buster statt stretch rein.
                        Dürfte in der /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list drin stehen.

                        Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
                        https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
                        NodeJS Fixer Skript:
                        https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
                        iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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                        • Thomas BraunT Thomas Braun

                          @lukas8519

                          https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stretch/stable
                          

                          Da muss buster statt stretch rein.
                          Dürfte in der /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list drin stehen.

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                          @thomas-braun

                          pi@raspberrypi:~ $ https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stretch/stable
                          -bash: https://repos.influxdata.com/debian: No such file or directory
                          
                          
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                            Fur influx ist das falsche Repo aktiv. Stretch ist falsch

                            Erstmal deine Installationsquellen korrigieren.

                            klingt gut! Leider weiß ich nicht wie ...

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                            #25

                            @lukas8519 deine sources.list anpassen
                            machs so

                            wget -qO- https://repos.influxdata.com/influxdb.key | sudo apt-key add -
                            source /etc/os-release
                            echo "deb https://repos.influxdata.com/debian $(lsb_release -cs) stable" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                            
                            

                            umgestiegen von Proxmox auf Unraid

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                              @lukas8519 deine sources.list anpassen
                              machs so

                              wget -qO- https://repos.influxdata.com/influxdb.key | sudo apt-key add -
                              source /etc/os-release
                              echo "deb https://repos.influxdata.com/debian $(lsb_release -cs) stable" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                              
                              
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                              @crunchip

                              
                              pi@raspberrypi:~ $ wget -qO- https://repos.influxdata.com/influxdb.key | sudo apt-key add -
                              OK
                              pi@raspberrypi:~ $ source /etc/os-release
                              pi@raspberrypi:~ $ echo "deb https://repos.influxdata.com/buster $(lsb_release -cs) stable" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                              deb https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster stable
                              
                              
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                                @crunchip

                                
                                pi@raspberrypi:~ $ wget -qO- https://repos.influxdata.com/influxdb.key | sudo apt-key add -
                                OK
                                pi@raspberrypi:~ $ source /etc/os-release
                                pi@raspberrypi:~ $ echo "deb https://repos.influxdata.com/buster $(lsb_release -cs) stable" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                                deb https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster stable
                                
                                
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                                @lukas8519

                                sudo apt update
                                sudo apt install --reinstall influxdb
                                

                                Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
                                https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
                                NodeJS Fixer Skript:
                                https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
                                iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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                                  @lukas8519

                                  sudo apt update
                                  sudo apt install --reinstall influxdb
                                  
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                                  @thomas-braun
                                  habe ich:

                                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt update
                                  Get:1 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease [15.0 kB]
                                  Get:2 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease [32.6 kB]
                                  Get:3 https://packages.grafana.com/oss/deb stable InRelease [12.1 kB]
                                  Get:4 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_12.x buster InRelease [4,584 B]
                                  Ign:5 https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster InRelease
                                  Get:6 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/main armhf Packages [13.0 MB]
                                  Err:7 https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster Release
                                    404  Not Found [IP: 2600:9000:224a:fa00:7:7790:e740:93a1 443]
                                  Get:8 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster/main armhf Packages [393 kB]
                                  Get:9 https://packages.grafana.com/oss/deb stable/main armhf Packages [29.8 kB]
                                  Get:10 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/contrib armhf Packages [58.8 kB]
                                  Get:11 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/non-free armhf Packages [104 kB]
                                  Get:12 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_12.x buster/main armhf Packages [777 B]
                                  Reading package lists... Done
                                  E: The repository 'https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster Release' does not have a Release file.
                                  N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
                                  N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
                                  N: Repository 'http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'oldstable'
                                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt install --reinstall influxdb
                                  Reading package lists... Done
                                  Building dependency tree
                                  Reading state information... Done
                                  Reinstallation of influxdb is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
                                  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 88 not upgraded.
                                  pi@raspberrypi:~ $
                                  
                                  
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                                    @thomas-braun
                                    habe ich:

                                    pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt update
                                    Get:1 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster InRelease [15.0 kB]
                                    Get:2 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease [32.6 kB]
                                    Get:3 https://packages.grafana.com/oss/deb stable InRelease [12.1 kB]
                                    Get:4 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_12.x buster InRelease [4,584 B]
                                    Ign:5 https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster InRelease
                                    Get:6 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/main armhf Packages [13.0 MB]
                                    Err:7 https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster Release
                                      404  Not Found [IP: 2600:9000:224a:fa00:7:7790:e740:93a1 443]
                                    Get:8 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster/main armhf Packages [393 kB]
                                    Get:9 https://packages.grafana.com/oss/deb stable/main armhf Packages [29.8 kB]
                                    Get:10 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/contrib armhf Packages [58.8 kB]
                                    Get:11 http://raspbian.raspberrypi.org/raspbian buster/non-free armhf Packages [104 kB]
                                    Get:12 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_12.x buster/main armhf Packages [777 B]
                                    Reading package lists... Done
                                    E: The repository 'https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster Release' does not have a Release file.
                                    N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
                                    N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
                                    N: Repository 'http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease' changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing' to 'oldstable'
                                    pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt install --reinstall influxdb
                                    Reading package lists... Done
                                    Building dependency tree
                                    Reading state information... Done
                                    Reinstallation of influxdb is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
                                    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 88 not upgraded.
                                    pi@raspberrypi:~ $
                                    
                                    
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                                    @lukas8519
                                    Die /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list ist noch falsch.
                                    Zeig mal was da jetzt drin steht.

                                    cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                                    

                                    Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
                                    https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
                                    NodeJS Fixer Skript:
                                    https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
                                    iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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                                      pi@raspberrypi:~ $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                                      deb https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster stable
                                      
                                      
                                      
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                                        pi@raspberrypi:~ $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                                        deb https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster stable
                                        
                                        
                                        
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                                        @lukas8519
                                        Ersetze das erste buster durch debian

                                        Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
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                                          Ersetze das erste buster durch debian

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                                          ehm... so war das nicht gemeint oder?

                                          pi@raspberrypi:~ $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/influxdb.list
                                          deb https://repos.influxdata.com/buster buster stable
                                          pi@raspberrypi:~ $ deb https://repos.influxdata.com/debian
                                          -bash: deb: command not found
                                          
                                          
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