Test PV Forecast Adapter

mcBirne

@luckyheiko
für mich ist Solcast am genauesten

haus-automatisierung

@maduuto sagte in Test PV Forecast Adapter:

Kann man das irgendwie manuell ändern?

Hatten wir hier schon öfter diskutiert. Liegt daran, dass Solcast nur Daten ab Zeitpunkt der Abfrage liefert. Das sieht in Graphen dann komisch aus. Man müsste den Adapter also erweitern, damit die Daten der vorigen Anfragen mit einer weiteren Anfrage zusammengeführt werden.

Da ich Solcast nicht nutze, habe ich das Thema gerade nicht auf dem Zettel.

maxpd

Ich habe Solcast und Forecast gleichzeitig. Bei mir ist Solcast (rot) meist höher als Forecast (blau).
Hier im Vergleich + das tatsächliche Ergebnis (gelb):

Vielleicht wäre Solcast ~ -40% ein guter Wert

mcBirne

BeinSolcast bekomme ich leider nur noch eine Anlage mit einem Modulfeld rein. Da ich eine Anlage mur drei Ausrichtungen habe, habe ich 3 Klnten erstellt und im IObroker alles zusammengerechnet. Das ist zwar etwas umständlich aber forecas.solar ist bei mir sehr ungenau. Manchmal passt es, aber manchmal auch stark daneben.

BananaJoe

@mcbirne sagte in Test PV Forecast Adapter:

BeinSolcast bekomme ich leider nur noch eine Anlage mit einem Modulfeld rein.

Online in deren Webinterface?
ok, da gehen maximal 2:

mcBirne

@bananajoe
Ja, aber ich habe es nicht geschafft ein zweites Array zu erstellen.

ceram

Hallo zusammen,

seit einigen Tagen funktioniert der Adapter (Version 4.0.0 mit Solcast) bei mir nicht mehr richtig. Gegen 1 Uhr wirft er ca. 600 (!) Mal hintereinander den Fehler:

2025-03-20 01:00:11.843 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:16.527 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:16.779 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.266 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.319 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.423 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.474 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.477 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.480 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.483 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.685 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:17.997 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:18.000 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:18.003 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:18.128 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429
2025-03-20 01:00:18.184 - error: pvforecast.0 (2205) Axios Error AxiosError: Request failed with status code 429

Trotzdem werden die Werte gegen 1:15 Uhr einmalig updated. Danach kann ich aber den ganzen Tag keinen Refresh mehr auslösen, da durch die Massenanfragen gegen 1:00 Uhr natürlich das Kontingent aufgebraucht ist.

Ist der Fehler bekannt? Ich habe bewusst nicht die Version geupdatet, da der Changelog nichts von einem entsprechenden Fehler/Fix enthält.

Viele Grüße!

icebear

@ceram

Request failed with status code 429 = Too many requests.

haus-automatisierung

@ceram sagte in Test PV Forecast Adapter:

seit einigen Tagen funktioniert der Adapter (Version 4.0.0 mit Solcast) bei mir nicht mehr richtig.

Die neue Konfiguration wurde aber schon übernommen?

ceram

@haus-automatisierung Wenn du damit die Solcast-seitige Umstellung vor einigen Monaten meinst, wegen der 4.0.0 veröffentlicht wurde: Ja, das habe ich gemacht.

icebear

@ceram

Hast du vielleicht noch irgendwo eine Abfrage zu Solcast laufen? z.B. EVCC

haus-automatisierung

@ceram Dann das Loglevel mal auf Debug ändern

ceram

@icebear Nein, pvforecast darf exklusiv darauf zugreifen.

@haus-automatisierung Es ist schon faszinierend, was ein simpler Neustart manchmal bewirken kann. Bein Ändern des Loglevels startete der Adapter neu. Und bis jetzt sieht es so aus, als sei das Problem alleine dadurch schon behoben.

Ich bekomme seit 0:00 im Viertelstundentakt jetzt eine Debug-Ausgabe mit den immer gleichen Daten. Nur um 1:00 Uhr unterscheidet sich die Ausgabe einmalig, da nur dort die Zeilen 4-5 und 10-13 enthalten sind. Das offenbar um 1:00 Uhr gezogene Update von der Solcast-API wird vom Adapter dann um 1:15 in die Datenpunkte eingepflegt. Hier die Ausgabe von 1:00 Uhr:

2025-03-25 01:00:00.049 - debug: pvforecast.0 (7841) [updateActualDataInterval] starting update (today: 25, tomorrow: 26)
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2025-03-25 01:00:00.117 - debug: pvforecast.0 (7841) plant "PV" - last update: 0, service url: https://api.solcast.com.au/rooftop_sites/xyz-xyz-xyz-xyz/forecasts?format=json&api_key=**config.apiKey**
2025-03-25 01:00:00.118 - debug: pvforecast.0 (7841) Starting update of PV
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2025-03-25 01:00:00.296 - debug: pvforecast.0 (7841) finished plant update: "PV"
2025-03-25 01:00:00.297 - debug: pvforecast.0 (7841) finished plants update
2025-03-25 01:00:03.120 - debug: pvforecast.0 (7841) received "solcast" data for plant "PV": 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Ich nehme an, das beschriebene Verhalten ist das normale internes Verhalten des Adapters, oder kommt dir etwas komisch vor?

Viele Grüße!

DancerVlt69

@haus-automatisierung
Ich klinke mich an dieser Stelle mal ein, weil sich das Ganze so liest, wie es derzeit bei mir ist.

Ja, ich weiß, die bisherigen Posts sind alle schon ein paar Jahre alt, aber

Hab/bekomme, leider erst jetzt bemerkt, seit Ende Januar 25 ein NULL in den Datenpunkt "pvforecast.0.summary.energy.tomorrow" geschrieben. Und ich bin mir nicht 100% sicher, aber bis auf das Update zur Version 2.8.(?) 1 oder 2, hatte ich glaube nichts verändert. Weiter zurück geht ja inzwischen auch nicht mehr.
Ist aber nur so ein Gefühl, kann mich auch täuschen.

Versuche, das Problem mittels Downgrade, oder des hier Beschriebenen zu fixen, haben nichts gebracht. Auch Neuinstallation des Adapters, und sogar des kompletten ioB, änderten nichts. Es gibt auch keine Debug-/Fehlermeldungen dahingehend.

Insgesamt ist es nicht wirklich dramatisch, da die Anlage in 2 Teilbereich (Ost und West) unterteilt ist, und die tomorrow-Werte für die Bereich kommen. Die Summe derer in einen User-Datenpunkt erfüllt ja den gleichen Zweck. Aber da es j schon mal eine solche Situation gab...

Und dann gibt es da noch die Sache mit dem Intervall. der Adapter meldet, alle 15 Minuten aktualisieren zu wollen, aber ich habe ich habe zu vollen Stunde alle 60 Minuten (Forecast-Solar) eingestellt.

Könnte es da einen Zusammenhang mit dem NULL-Eintrag geben?

Nach ein wenig Stöbern in einer der letzten Log's habe ich dann doch noch was gefunden, dass vielleicht interessant sein könnte. Ist allerdings 'nur' eine Warnung, dass die Config nicht ok sei. Recht weit unten -> 2025-03-28 01:56:33.233

20250328_0145_log.txt

Wenn es irgend einen Anhaltspunkt und/oder nen Fix geben sollte, wäre natürlich schön.

Besten Dank und Grüße...

DancerVlt69

@dancervlt69 @haus-automatisierung

Kaine Antwort ist bekanntlich auch eine Antwort... Aber dann antworte ich mir mal selbst.

Habe den Grund für den "NULL"-Wert gefunden:

Wenn eine oder mehrere der (vor-) konfigurierten PV-Anlagen einen kWp-Wert kleiner einer ~~3 oder 4~~ Stellen hinter dem Komma hat, kann pvForecast oder Forecast-Solar diese/n Wert/e scheinbar nicht verarbeiten/nutzen und schreibt bzw. sendet NULL statt eines 'regulären' Werts zurück. ~~Ob es nun kleiner 3 oder 4 oder mehr Stellen hinterm Komma sind~~, kann ich gerade nicht testen, hab (mal wieder) das Api-Limit ausgereizt

Hintergrund, warum ich so geringe Werte gewählt hatte:

Da die Anlage, für die ich das aktuell einrichte, wg. 'wandernder' Verschattung, auf bis zu 4 Teilbereiche/MPPT's je Dachseite aufgeteilt ist/wird, wollte ich diese schon vorab konfigurieren, aber die kWp-Werte für die (noch) nicht montierten Teile halt so gering wie möglich wählen, dass sie keinen oder nur einen möglichst geringen Einfluss auf die Summe der gesamten Anlage haben. Bei einem kWp-Wert von (Korrektur) 0,1 wird aktuell ein Wert für summery_energy._tomorrow zurückgegeben/eingetragen.

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@dancervlt69 sagte in Test PV Forecast Adapter:

Nach ein wenig Stöbern in einer der letzten Log's habe ich dann doch noch was gefunden, dass vielleicht interessant sein könnte. Ist allerdings 'nur' eine Warnung, dass die Config nicht ok sei.

Die Config ist ok. Das ist nur eine Schema-Validation. Interessanter sind übrigens immer Logs im Debug Loglevel. Mit Info kann man meistens nicht nachvollziehen, was genau in jedem Schritt passiert.

@dancervlt69 sagte in Test PV Forecast Adapter:

Bei einem kWp-Wert von (Korrektur) 0,1 wird aktuell ein Wert für summery_energy._tomorrow zurückgegeben/eingetragen.

Puh, soll jetzt der Adapter validieren, dass die Werte über 0,1 liegen? Falls jemand weniger als ein einzelnes 100Wp-Panel nutzt?! Kann ich gerne einbauen. Ist aber ein extremer Edge-Case.

@dancervlt69 sagte in Test PV Forecast Adapter:

Und ich bin mir nicht 100% sicher, aber bis auf das Update zur Version 2.8.(?) 1 oder 2, hatte ich glaube nichts verändert.

Du schreibst selbst, dass Du eine Anlage hinzugefügt hast und mit super kleinen Werten (4 Nachkommastellen) arbeitest, aber hast zu 100% nichts geändert? Das passt ja nicht zusammen...

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Erst mal Danke für die Reaktion @haus-automatisierung

In Sachen Log hat sich ja inzwischen erledigt, wie aus dem nachfolgenden Post ersichtlich.

Validieren: war u.a. ein Gedanke. Oder aber eine Check-Box, mit der man de-/aktivieren kann, welche der eingetragenen PV's in die Forecast-Abfrage einbezogen werden sollen oder nicht.
Aber wenn das programmiertechnisch zu aufwendig ist, dann halt nur einen Hinweis in die Anleitung, dass kWp-Werte unter 100 Watt (von Forecast-Solar) nicht unterstützt werden bzw. zu fehlerhaften Rückmeldungen/Werten führen (können).
Mein Gedanke war halt nur, schon mal die Datenpunkte für die in 4 Teilebereiche aufgeteilte Anlage zu haben, um diese schon in die Auswertung einbinden zu können.

Und doch, das passt schon zusammen: Als ich den Adapter das aller erste mal eingerichtet hatte, hatte ich von Anfang an 4 Teilbereiche konfiguriert. Davon 2 mit reellen Werten, und 2 mit 0,0001.
Das hat bis Ende Jan auch wunderbar funktioniert. Man kann also mutmaßen bzw. davon ausgehen. dass Forecast-Solar Änderungen vorgenommen hat. Denn der Adapter wird ja kaum von einem Tag auf den anderen 'der Meinung sein' seine Ausgabe mal eben von 0,0 auf (NULL) zu ändern.

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@dancervlt69 Wenn Du eine Config exportierst, welche aktuell null generiert, schaue ich mir das gerne an.

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