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Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker

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  • R robmann

    @homoran
    ne, nicht via Cloud. Direkt via Modbus (TCP). Der Home Hub ist wohl der Nachfolger vom DCOM.

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    Homoran
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    wrote on last edited by
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    @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

    Der Home Hub ist wohl der Nachfolger vom DCOM.

    ich weiss icht was der für Anschlüsse hat, aber hier
    2023033n_143008.jpg

    geht's zum Modbus-Adapter per RS485.
    Wenn der Hub Modbus TCP unterstützt, braucht's keine weitere Hardware, der Adapter reicht.

    Hast du Infos was der Hub alles an Daten liefert und wo er in der Altherma angeschlossen wird?

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      Hier die Doku zum Hub: https://www.daikin.de/content/dam/document-library/Installer-reference-guide/ctrl/ekrhh/EKRHH_Installer reference guide_4PDE744838-1_German.pdf

      An der Altherma ist er bereits durch den Heizungsbauer angeschlossen.

      Was mich nun interessiert ist die Einbindung in den iobroker bzw. die Visualisierung.
      Hat hier jemand Tips?

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      • R robmann

        Hier die Doku zum Hub: https://www.daikin.de/content/dam/document-library/Installer-reference-guide/ctrl/ekrhh/EKRHH_Installer reference guide_4PDE744838-1_German.pdf

        An der Altherma ist er bereits durch den Heizungsbauer angeschlossen.

        Was mich nun interessiert ist die Einbindung in den iobroker bzw. die Visualisierung.
        Hat hier jemand Tips?

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        Homoran
        Global Moderator Administrators
        wrote on last edited by
        #49

        @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

        Hat hier jemand Tips?

        wenn modbus tcp, dann modbus Adapter.
        dort Verbindungsparameter konfigurieten und erst einmal nur ein Register

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        Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.
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        • R robmann

          Hier die Doku zum Hub: https://www.daikin.de/content/dam/document-library/Installer-reference-guide/ctrl/ekrhh/EKRHH_Installer reference guide_4PDE744838-1_German.pdf

          An der Altherma ist er bereits durch den Heizungsbauer angeschlossen.

          Was mich nun interessiert ist die Einbindung in den iobroker bzw. die Visualisierung.
          Hat hier jemand Tips?

          HomoranH Do not disturb
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          Homoran
          Global Moderator Administrators
          wrote on last edited by Homoran
          #50

          @robmann

          @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

          An der Altherma ist er bereits durch den Heizungsbauer angeschlossen.

          nach den Informationen in der Bedienungsanleitung

          X6A Zur Inneneinheit (P1/P2 Konnektor)
          X7A Zur Inneneinheit (S21 Konnektor)
          X8A Zur Modbus-Interface (RS485 Konnektor)
          

          ist es genau wie beim DCOM.
          Anschluss am Gerät an P1/P1 und Modbus RTU

          wofür der LAN Anschluss ist, finde ich auf die Schnelle nicht, irgendwo steht was von ONECTA (also cloud) und irgendwo steht Modbus RTU und TCP würden unterstützt

          Es geht dir wahrscheinlich um "Anwendungsfall 3" , Einbindung ins Smarthome

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          • HomoranH Homoran

            @robmann

            @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

            An der Altherma ist er bereits durch den Heizungsbauer angeschlossen.

            nach den Informationen in der Bedienungsanleitung

            X6A Zur Inneneinheit (P1/P2 Konnektor)
            X7A Zur Inneneinheit (S21 Konnektor)
            X8A Zur Modbus-Interface (RS485 Konnektor)
            

            ist es genau wie beim DCOM.
            Anschluss am Gerät an P1/P1 und Modbus RTU

            wofür der LAN Anschluss ist, finde ich auf die Schnelle nicht, irgendwo steht was von ONECTA (also cloud) und irgendwo steht Modbus RTU und TCP würden unterstützt

            Es geht dir wahrscheinlich um "Anwendungsfall 3" , Einbindung ins Smarthome

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            @homoran said in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

            Es geht dir wahrscheinlich um "Anwendungsfall 3" , Einbindung ins Smarthome

            ganz genau... und das ganze ein wenig visualisieren ;-)

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            • R robmann

              @homoran said in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

              Es geht dir wahrscheinlich um "Anwendungsfall 3" , Einbindung ins Smarthome

              ganz genau... und das ganze ein wenig visualisieren ;-)

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              @robmann
              na, dann ran an den Speck!

              wo genau klemmt's denn noch?

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              • HomoranH Homoran

                @robmann
                na, dann ran an den Speck!

                wo genau klemmt's denn noch?

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                @homoran Ich brauche nur mal den richtigen Denkanstoß in sachen Iobroker...
                Geht das über den ModBus-Adapter? Konnte hier leider nicht wirklich was hilfreiches finden...

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                • R robmann

                  @homoran Ich brauche nur mal den richtigen Denkanstoß in sachen Iobroker...
                  Geht das über den ModBus-Adapter? Konnte hier leider nicht wirklich was hilfreiches finden...

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                  Homoran
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                  @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                  Geht das über den ModBus-Adapter?

                  wie ich schrob

                  @homoran sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                  @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                  Hat hier jemand Tips?

                  wenn modbus tcp, dann modbus Adapter.
                  dort Verbindungsparameter konfigurieten und erst einmal nur ein Register

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                  Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.
                  Das Forum freut sich über eine Spende. Benutzt dazu den Spendenbutton im Header. Danke!
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                  • HomoranH Homoran

                    @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                    Geht das über den ModBus-Adapter?

                    wie ich schrob

                    @homoran sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                    @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                    Hat hier jemand Tips?

                    wenn modbus tcp, dann modbus Adapter.
                    dort Verbindungsparameter konfigurieten und erst einmal nur ein Register

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                    @homoran
                    Hallo, hat geklappt.. ;-)
                    Welche Widgets hast du für die Visualisierung verwendet?

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                    • R robmann

                      @homoran
                      Hallo, hat geklappt.. ;-)
                      Welche Widgets hast du für die Visualisierung verwendet?

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                      Homoran
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #56

                      @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                      Welche Widgets hast du für die Visualisierung verwendet?

                      verschiedene :grin:

                      Hab aber auch nur Heating only.

                      Wofür brauchst du denn widgets?

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                      • HomoranH Homoran

                        @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                        Welche Widgets hast du für die Visualisierung verwendet?

                        verschiedene :grin:

                        Hab aber auch nur Heating only.

                        Wofür brauchst du denn widgets?

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                        #57

                        @homoran möchte gerne eine ähnliche Visualisierung bauen ;-)

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                        • R robmann

                          @homoran möchte gerne eine ähnliche Visualisierung bauen ;-)

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                          HomoranH Do not disturb
                          Homoran
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                          #58

                          @robmann

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                            @homoran möchte gerne eine ähnliche Visualisierung bauen ;-)

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                            @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                            @homoran möchte gerne eine ähnliche Visualisierung bauen ;-)

                            Das war klar!
                            Nur für welche Funktionen/Werte suchst du noch Widgets?
                            Hab's mir einfach gemacht und alles exportiert

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                              Vielen Dank!

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                                Hat evtl. jemand Erfahrung mit SmartGrid über Modbus? Ich habe mal testweise versucht das Holding-Register 56 (Betriebsmodus intelligentes Stromnetz) zu beschreiben. Das wird allerdings nicht angenommen. Andere Register wie z.B. 4 (Heizbetrieb Ein/Aus) oder 9 (Geräuscharmer Modus) lassen sich beschreiben.

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                                  Hat evtl. jemand Erfahrung mit SmartGrid über Modbus? Ich habe mal testweise versucht das Holding-Register 56 (Betriebsmodus intelligentes Stromnetz) zu beschreiben. Das wird allerdings nicht angenommen. Andere Register wie z.B. 4 (Heizbetrieb Ein/Aus) oder 9 (Geräuscharmer Modus) lassen sich beschreiben.

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                                  @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                  Das wird allerdings nicht angenommen

                                  sicher?
                                  was veranlasst dich zu dieser Meinung?

                                  @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                  Ich habe mal testweise versucht das Holding-Register 56 (Betriebsmodus intelligentes Stromnetz) zu beschreiben

                                  wie?

                                  bitte immer alles zeigen!
                                  https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/51555/hinweise-für-gute-forenbeiträge/1

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                                    Der Wert vom Register 40056 stellt sich nach Eingabe von z.B. "2" wieder zurück auf den Default-Wert.
                                    42c8ae8c-bab6-4e7e-9e38-e8ea2848cfd9-grafik.png

                                    Laut Doku wäre hier folgende Eingabe möglich:
                                    dce0a25d-f62a-4484-87ad-7e137d6c048f-grafik.png

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                                      Der Wert vom Register 40056 stellt sich nach Eingabe von z.B. "2" wieder zurück auf den Default-Wert.
                                      42c8ae8c-bab6-4e7e-9e38-e8ea2848cfd9-grafik.png

                                      Laut Doku wäre hier folgende Eingabe möglich:
                                      dce0a25d-f62a-4484-87ad-7e137d6c048f-grafik.png

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                                      @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                      stellt sich nach Eingabe von z.B. "2" wieder zurück auf den Default-Wert.

                                      nochmal

                                      @homoran sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                      wie?

                                      wie sieht die Registereinstellung dazu aus?

                                      32766 sieht nach einer Errormeldung aus.
                                      sollte in der Registerbeschreibung stehen.

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                                        Der Wert vom Register 40056 stellt sich nach Eingabe von z.B. "2" wieder zurück auf den Default-Wert.
                                        42c8ae8c-bab6-4e7e-9e38-e8ea2848cfd9-grafik.png

                                        Laut Doku wäre hier folgende Eingabe möglich:
                                        dce0a25d-f62a-4484-87ad-7e137d6c048f-grafik.png

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                                        @robmann

                                        as I told.
                                        Das ist kein default Wert:

                                        Screenshot_20240909-152840_Firefox.jpg

                                        Und auch was ich vermutet habe!

                                        Ist diese Option in der Altherma freigeschaltet?

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                                          Register-Einstellung sieht wie folgt aus:

                                          c9d0c1e0-49d6-494e-a592-19d7119efaee-grafik.png

                                          zum Vergleich: Register 40009 und 40056 identisch konfiguriert. Das setzten von "Leise-Modus" klappt.

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