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      misteiner76 @firebowl last edited by misteiner76

      @firebowl
      Ich habe auch eine Daikin Altherma 3 H MT 12 (W) Wandgerät, PV kann man mit den Smart-Grid Anschlüssen steuern:
      Smart Grid.png

      Das geht auch ohne eigenen Zähler. Man kann in der Steuerung der WP die maximale Leistung einstellen. Ein eigener Zähler wird mit Impulsanschluss angeschlossen, damit hat man den Vorteil dass der Zähler basierend auf der Einspeisung ins Netz die Leistung regelt.

      Ich habe mittlerweile die DCOM LT/MB (Modbus Schnittstelle) im Einsatz, da ich die Wärmepumpe für die Poolheizung mit Photovoltaik verwende.
      Damit kann ich die wesentlichen Elemente steuern (Betriebsart: Wetter oder fixe Vorlauftemperatur), Vorlauftemperatur, Flüsterbetrieb, Zusatzheizung elektrisch)). Mittels iobroker Modbus kann ich die Werte einfach ändern. Für Modbus RTU zu Modbus TCP habe ich das PE11 Modul im Einsatz.
      Funktioniert prima.

      Holding register1.png

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        Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @misteiner76 last edited by Homoran

        @misteiner76 sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

        Ich habe mittlerweile die DCOM LT/MB (Modbus Schnittstelle) i

        meines Wissens muss es die .../IO sein.
        Die habe ich (400 € für wenige Werte 😡)

        hatte die Woche ochmal einen sehr kompetenten Mitarbeiter an der Daikin Hotline, der mir bestätigte dass die CAN Bus Variante nur bei alten Rotex Pumpen existiert.
        Dazu gibt es hier einen Thread

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          misteiner76 @Homoran last edited by

          @homoran

          Also DCOM LT/MB funktioniert definitiv (Modbus Werte mit IoBroker), die DCOM LT/IO kann das auch, hat noch die Möglichkeit über IO Schnittstellen Werte analog (z.B. 0-10 V) zu übernehmen.

          Die Werte die ich aufgelistet habe sind die Werte die man verstellen kann. Es gibt noch ein paar mehr Register die man anzeigen kann.

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            Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @misteiner76 last edited by

            @misteiner76 sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

            DCOM LT/MB funktioniert definitiv

            schön!
            Hatte ich mir auch rausgesucht, wurde aber von mehreren incl. Daikin Hotline als nicht geeignet klasifiziert.

            Screenshot_20230512-153416_Firefox.jpg
            Das ist für mich alles was ich nutzen kann, da meine Altherma 3RW nur heizen kann und soll.

            die Gauge "Aussen" zeigt einen HM Temperaturdifferenzsensor, mit der ich auchbdie Ausblastemperatur gemessen habe, der im Moment aber im Haus liegt.

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              cb187 @Homoran last edited by

              https://github.com/Trunks1982/Daikin-Rotex-HPSU-CAN

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                robmann last edited by

                Hallo,

                ich würde meine Altherma 3 H MT inkl Ech2o gerne via Daikin Home Hub an den iobroker anbinden. Hat hierfür evtl. jemand ein paar Tips dazu? Ich benötige im iobroker den ModBus Adapter - richtig?

                Vielen Dank

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                  Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by

                  @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                  gerne via Daikin Home Hub

                  was ist das?
                  klingt nach cloud?

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                    robmann @Homoran last edited by

                    @homoran
                    ne, nicht via Cloud. Direkt via Modbus (TCP). Der Home Hub ist wohl der Nachfolger vom DCOM.

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                      Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by

                      @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                      Der Home Hub ist wohl der Nachfolger vom DCOM.

                      ich weiss icht was der für Anschlüsse hat, aber hier
                      2023033n_143008.jpg

                      geht's zum Modbus-Adapter per RS485.
                      Wenn der Hub Modbus TCP unterstützt, braucht's keine weitere Hardware, der Adapter reicht.

                      Hast du Infos was der Hub alles an Daten liefert und wo er in der Altherma angeschlossen wird?

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                        robmann last edited by

                        Hier die Doku zum Hub: https://www.daikin.de/content/dam/document-library/Installer-reference-guide/ctrl/ekrhh/EKRHH_Installer reference guide_4PDE744838-1_German.pdf

                        An der Altherma ist er bereits durch den Heizungsbauer angeschlossen.

                        Was mich nun interessiert ist die Einbindung in den iobroker bzw. die Visualisierung.
                        Hat hier jemand Tips?

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                          Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by

                          @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                          Hat hier jemand Tips?

                          wenn modbus tcp, dann modbus Adapter.
                          dort Verbindungsparameter konfigurieten und erst einmal nur ein Register

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                            Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by Homoran

                            @robmann

                            @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                            An der Altherma ist er bereits durch den Heizungsbauer angeschlossen.

                            nach den Informationen in der Bedienungsanleitung

                            X6A Zur Inneneinheit (P1/P2 Konnektor)
                            X7A Zur Inneneinheit (S21 Konnektor)
                            X8A Zur Modbus-Interface (RS485 Konnektor)
                            

                            ist es genau wie beim DCOM.
                            Anschluss am Gerät an P1/P1 und Modbus RTU

                            wofür der LAN Anschluss ist, finde ich auf die Schnelle nicht, irgendwo steht was von ONECTA (also cloud) und irgendwo steht Modbus RTU und TCP würden unterstützt

                            Es geht dir wahrscheinlich um "Anwendungsfall 3" , Einbindung ins Smarthome

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                              robmann @Homoran last edited by

                              @homoran said in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                              Es geht dir wahrscheinlich um "Anwendungsfall 3" , Einbindung ins Smarthome

                              ganz genau... und das ganze ein wenig visualisieren 😉

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                                Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by

                                @robmann
                                na, dann ran an den Speck!

                                wo genau klemmt's denn noch?

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                                  robmann @Homoran last edited by

                                  @homoran Ich brauche nur mal den richtigen Denkanstoß in sachen Iobroker...
                                  Geht das über den ModBus-Adapter? Konnte hier leider nicht wirklich was hilfreiches finden...

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                                    Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by

                                    @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                    Geht das über den ModBus-Adapter?

                                    wie ich schrob

                                    @homoran sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                    @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                    Hat hier jemand Tips?

                                    wenn modbus tcp, dann modbus Adapter.
                                    dort Verbindungsparameter konfigurieten und erst einmal nur ein Register

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                                      robmann @Homoran last edited by

                                      @homoran
                                      Hallo, hat geklappt.. 😉
                                      Welche Widgets hast du für die Visualisierung verwendet?

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                                        Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by

                                        @robmann sagte in Wärmepumpe Daikin Altherma 3 H HT und ioBroker:

                                        Welche Widgets hast du für die Visualisierung verwendet?

                                        verschiedene 😁

                                        Hab aber auch nur Heating only.

                                        Wofür brauchst du denn widgets?

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                                          robmann @Homoran last edited by

                                          @homoran möchte gerne eine ähnliche Visualisierung bauen 😉

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                                            Homoran Global Moderator Administrators @robmann last edited by

                                            @robmann

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