UPDATE 31.10.: Amazon Alexa - ioBroker Skill läuft aus ?

[tobili03]

@simo hab ich alles schon probiert. Würde ja meine 19 Geräte auch neu anlernen aber ich kann auch keinen neuen Datenpunkt hinzufügen.

[Simo]

@tobili03
Genau das ist ja das Problem, solange du die Geräte nicht unter V3 sehen kannst ist das schwierig

[tobili03]

@simo Komisch, jetzt geht das hinzufügen. Aber schnell die 19 dazu.

[Simo]

@tobili03
Hast du schon mal versucht ein gerät in der Alexa App zu löschen und dann durch „Alexa gerätesuche“ suchen zu lassen?

[tobili03]

@simo gerade erfolglos probiert. Geräte konnte ich auch nur zwei hinzufügen bei anderen kommt ein Fehler.

[Michael Schmitt]

@apollon77 alles nach der 4.1.4 läßt bei mir im iot - Alexa v3 die Schieberegler/Pegelregler (zum dimmen) die ich angelegt habe verschwinden.

4.1.4

4.1.9

[Simo]

@tobili03
Deaktiviere mal den Custom ioBroker Skill und starte den iobroker.assistant skill neu.
Und im Iobroker IOT nur V3 auswählen.

[tobili03]

@simo ohne Erfolg, werde morgen Abend mal weiterbasteln. Danke erstmal bis hierher.

[Samson71]

@michael-schmitt
Als was für Typen sind die Geräte denn angelegt? Ich meine es gibt einen Gerätetyp Dimmer, aber der hat keinen sichtbaren Schieberegler.

EDIT
Gibt eine 4.1.10 mit einem Fix für Slider

[Michael Schmitt]

@samson71 wenn ich die als Dimmer anlege dann bekomme ich Fehlermeldungen beim ausschalten der Lichter.

deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:51.844	warn	{"address":"/lights/9/state/bri","description":"parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.","type":201}
deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:51.843	warn	Failed action "bri" on light 9! Description: parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.
deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:51.832	warn	{"address":"/lights/28/state/bri","description":"parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.","type":201}
deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:51.831	warn	Failed action "bri" on light 28! Description: parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.
javascript.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:37.431	info	script.js.common.Wichtig.System_Adapter_wahr_falsch_TEST: telegram[Michael]: iot.0 is connected Wert: true Adapter ist wieder erreichbar
deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:28.004	warn	{"address":"/lights/9/state/bri","description":"parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.","type":201}
deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:28.004	warn	Failed action "bri" on light 9! Description: parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.
deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:27.998	warn	{"address":"/lights/28/state/bri","description":"parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.","type":201}
deconz.0
	2025-10-18 14:23:27.997	warn	Failed action "bri" on light 28! Description: parameter, bri, is not modifiable. Device is set to off.

Wenn ich statt Dimmer, Schieberegler/Pegelregler verwende kommen keine Fehlermeldungen

[docsnyder7]

@tobili03 ich steige auch aus für heute...skills an und aus , v2 an und v3 oder oder... kann nicht mal mehr Geräte anlegen..
für heute reichts, morgen ist auch noch ein Tag

iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.895	debug	[ALEXA3] added shelly.0.shellyplus2pm#441793ad4c28#1.Cover0.Status with smartName as "blind"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.874	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state mqtt.1.evcc.vehicles.vw.capacity with smartName {"de":"evcc/vehicles/vw/capacity","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.867	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state homee.0.OnOffSwitch-33.OnOff-134 with smartName {"de":"Funkrelais Garagentor OnOff","smartType":"gate"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.864	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.sat with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.861	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.on with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 8 on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.858	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.hue with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.855	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.ct with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.852	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.bri with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.847	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.7.on with smartName {"de":"Steckdose Johanna","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.842	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.on with smartName {"de":"undefined on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.839	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.level with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","byON":"75","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.835	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.hue with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","smartType":"hue"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.832	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.ct with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 5 ct","smartType":"ct"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.825	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.12.on with smartName {"de":"TV Schlafzimmer","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.820	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.online with smartName {"de":"online","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.807	debug	[ALEXA3] added alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.Info.name with smartName as "media"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:31.057	debug	[AlexaV3::Blind]: reporting state: [{"namespace":"Alexa.PercentageController","name":"percentage","value":95}]
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.995	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: finished collecting devices. there is/are 1 device(s) in total
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.994	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [hue] assigned to room [Garten] has no function. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.756	debug	[ALEXA3] added shelly.0.shellyplus2pm#441793ad4c28#1.Cover0.Status with smartName as "blind"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.736	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state mqtt.1.evcc.vehicles.vw.capacity with smartName {"de":"evcc/vehicles/vw/capacity","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.730	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state homee.0.OnOffSwitch-33.OnOff-134 with smartName {"de":"Funkrelais Garagentor OnOff","smartType":"gate"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.727	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.sat with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.725	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.on with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 8 on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.722	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.hue with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.719	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.ct with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.716	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.bri with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.712	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.7.on with smartName {"de":"Steckdose Johanna","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.708	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.on with smartName {"de":"undefined on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.705	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.level with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","byON":"75","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.702	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.hue with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","smartType":"hue"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.699	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.ct with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 5 ct","smartType":"ct"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.695	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.12.on with smartName {"de":"TV Schlafzimmer","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.692	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.online with smartName {"de":"online","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:30.683	debug	[ALEXA3] added alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.Info.name with smartName as "media"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.944	info	Request V3 devices
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.690	debug	[AlexaV3::Blind]: reporting state: [{"namespace":"Alexa.PercentageController","name":"percentage","value":95}]
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.626	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Status (Controls: Blind)
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.626	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: finished collecting devices. there is/are 1 device(s) in total
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.626	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [hue] assigned to room [Garten] has no function. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.625	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [windowTilt] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.624	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [window] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.623	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: "blind" added to "Status"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.621	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: control of type "media" not supported yet. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.620	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: type detector found 107 controls
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.392	debug	[ALEXA3] added shelly.0.shellyplus2pm#441793ad4c28#1.Cover0.Status with smartName as "blind"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.373	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state mqtt.1.evcc.vehicles.vw.capacity with smartName {"de":"evcc/vehicles/vw/capacity","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.367	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state homee.0.OnOffSwitch-33.OnOff-134 with smartName {"de":"Funkrelais Garagentor OnOff","smartType":"gate"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.364	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.sat with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.362	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.on with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 8 on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.359	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.hue with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.356	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.ct with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.354	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.bri with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.327	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.7.on with smartName {"de":"Steckdose Johanna","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.323	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.on with smartName {"de":"undefined on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.320	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.level with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","byON":"75","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.317	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.hue with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","smartType":"hue"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.314	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.ct with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 5 ct","smartType":"ct"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.310	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.12.on with smartName {"de":"TV Schlafzimmer","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.307	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.online with smartName {"de":"online","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.297	debug	[ALEXA3] added alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.Info.name with smartName as "media"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:29.035	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: collecting devices already in progress. Skipping...
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:28.472	info	Request V3 devices
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.787	debug	[AlexaV3::Blind]: reporting state: [{"namespace":"Alexa.PercentageController","name":"percentage","value":95}]
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.737	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: registering for updates of total 1 states
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.737	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Status (Controls: Blind)
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.737	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: finished collecting devices. there is/are 1 device(s) in total
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.737	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [hue] assigned to room [Garten] has no function. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.736	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [motion] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.736	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [windowTilt] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.736	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [window] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.735	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [blind] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.735	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [window] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.734	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [door] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.734	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [window] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.733	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [floodAlarm] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.733	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [window] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.732	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: Control of type [socket] has neither room no smart name. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.732	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: "blind" added to "Status"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.730	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: merging controls to a device with name Status
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.730	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: control of type "media" not supported yet. Skipped.
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.729	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: merging controls to a device with name name
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.728	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: type detector found 107 controls
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.466	debug	[ALEXA3] added shelly.0.shellyplus2pm#441793ad4c28#1.Cover0.Status with smartName as "blind"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.432	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state mqtt.1.evcc.vehicles.vw.capacity with smartName {"de":"evcc/vehicles/vw/capacity","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.423	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state homee.0.OnOffSwitch-33.OnOff-134 with smartName {"de":"Funkrelais Garagentor OnOff","smartType":"gate"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.419	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.sat with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.415	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.on with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 8 on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.412	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.hue with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.409	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.ct with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.405	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.8.bri with smartName {"de":"Nachtlicht Johanna","smartType":"light"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.398	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.7.on with smartName {"de":"Steckdose Johanna","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.394	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.on with smartName {"de":"undefined on","smartType":"light"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.390	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.level with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","byON":"75","smartType":"slider"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.387	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.hue with smartName {"de":"Bettbeleuchtung","smartType":"hue"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.383	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.5.ct with smartName {"de":"Extended color light 5 ct","smartType":"ct"} and type number
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.378	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state deconz.0.Lights.12.on with smartName {"de":"TV Schlafzimmer","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.373	debug	[ALEXA3] Ignored state alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.online with smartName {"de":"online","smartType":"socket"} and type boolean
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:19.359	debug	[ALEXA3] added alexa2.0.Echo-Devices.G0922N0524160BEX.Info.name with smartName as "media"
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:18.501	debug	[AlexaV3::DeviceManager]: (re)collecting devices...
iot.0
	2025-10-19 21:10:18.499	info	Request V3 devices

die ignore sind genau die die im "alten" alexa geräte stehen, aber im V3 nicht! Ich dussel hatte diese nachdem ich den leitfaden durchgeführt hatte gelöscht in der Alexa APP, um zu sehen, welche wieder eingelesen werden

[Michael Schmitt]

@samson71 sagte in BETA-TEST Neuer Amazon Skill "iobroker.assistant":

@michael-schmitt
Als was für Typen sind die Geräte denn angelegt? Ich meine es gibt einen Gerätetyp Dimmer, aber der hat keinen sichtbaren Schieberegler.

EDIT
Gibt eine 4.1.10 mit einem Fix für Slider

mit der 4.1.10 funktioniert es nun

Jetzt heist der "Pegelregler" auch Schieberegler

[tobili03]

@simo nach dem duschen schnell noch die 4.1.10. drauf, Jetzt habe ich die Geräte in der Liste. morgen gehts weiter

[docsnyder7]

@tobili03 in der App oder Adapter

[Winni]

Ich darf jetzt Erfolg vermelden Ich hatte jetzt den Adapter komplett gelöscht und anschließend neu installiert. Es kam die Version 4.1.10. Daher weiß ich nicht was jetzt letztlich für den Erfolg verantwortlich war, das Löschen oder die neue Version? Ist aber auch nicht so wichtig. Wichtig ist, dass jetzt die Geräte wieder über Alexa gesteuert werden können. Vielen Dank an @apollon77 und @Bluefox

[Simo]

@tobili03
Super, jetzt nur noch in der Alexa App löschen und dann unter v3 suchen lassen

[docsnyder7]

@simo kurze Frage… unter den V3 Geräten im Adapter, da tauchen doch nur Geräte auf, die ichbselber angelegt habe? Zb fenstersensoren Zigbee findet Alexa ja auch so, die tauchen in der App auf, aber nicht im Adapter…korrekt?

[ZeroQool]

Bei mir tritt auch mit der neusten Version immer noch ein Fehler auf und zwar kann ich im Screenshot nicht den 3. Datensatz (Humidity) löschen. Es kommt zwar eine Meldung, dass er gelöscht wird, aber er taucht immer wieder auf. Ich weiß auch nicht woher:

Log:

Bei mir sind auch alle Zigbee Instanzen deaktiviert, da ich schon lange davon weg bin.

[Krys]

@zeroqool Hier auch, issue ist eröffnet.

https://github.com/ioBroker/ioBroker.iot/issues/989

[Negalein]

Hallo

Ich bin noch stark am kämpfen, was ich aktuell verwenden soll, bzw. was zuverlässiger ist.

Assistant oder Matter?

Ich habe HmIP-Froll, HmIP-Broll, Phillips Hue, Shelly Plus 1, Shelly Plus 2 PM, Shelly Plug S, TP-Link HS100, Logitech Harmony.

Problem ist, wenn ich umstelle, muss es funktionieren. Ich bin darauf angewiesen vieles mit Sprache zu steuern.