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  • HomoranH Homoran

    @ps1304 ich hab mal das Bild "entfernt"
    möchtest du nicht lieber deine Adresse unkenntlich machen?

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    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #38

    @homoran danke Dir - erledigt

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    • MuppibaerM Muppibaer

      @wendy2702

      Hab mal meine aktuelle EE ansicht dabei :

      Energiefluss-erweitert.jpg

      Wenn man auf die einzelnen Geräte (PV-Module , Zendure Aios oder Haus) klickt öffnen sich Webseiten mit Diagrammen zu den bereichen .

      Energiefluss - erweitert1.jpg

      Zusätzlich wird entsprechend dem Wetter (wolkig, sonnig, regen ...) und Tag/Nacht der bereich über dem Haus angepasst. Die Texte werden entsprechend der aktuellen Funktion (laden/entladen usw) abgeändert.

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      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Merlin123
      #39

      @muppibaer Boah! Sieht klasse aus! Wie hast Du das denn gemacht? Also Haus und Wetter....

      (Und kleiner Hinweis: Unten rechts beim Zähler müssen das kWh und nicht kW sein ;) )

      Beta-Tester

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      • P ps1304

        Screenshot.png
        die Bilder ändern sich zum Teil anhand der Werte.

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        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #40

        @ps1304 Wo hast Du denn die Icons her?

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        • Merlin123M Merlin123

          @ps1304 Wo hast Du denn die Icons her?

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          Muppibaer
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Muppibaer
          #41

          @merlin123 Die meisten Bilder habe ich von PixaBay, die musste Du nur grössen mäßig etwas anpassen dann geht es . Das Haus und die unterschiedlichen Wolken sind sich überlagernde und wechselnde Bilder.

          RasberryPi4 4Gb mit
          32Gb M2 Sata an FritzBox 6660
          IOBroker-Pi: Plattform: linux
          RAM: 3.74 GB
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          • MuppibaerM Muppibaer

            @merlin123 Die meisten Bilder habe ich von PixaBay, die musste Du nur grössen mäßig etwas anpassen dann geht es . Das Haus und die unterschiedlichen Wolken sind sich überlagernde und wechselnde Bilder.

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            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
            #42

            @muppibaer Ah ok. Dank Dir :) Muss ich mal schauen

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            • Merlin123M Merlin123

              @ps1304 Wo hast Du denn die Icons her?

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              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #43

              @merlin123 flaticon

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              • P ps1304

                @merlin123 flaticon

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                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #44

                @ps1304 Danke :)

                Beta-Tester

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                • Dominik RehmD Offline
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                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #45

                  Hallo zusammen,
                  sehr schönes Projekt.
                  Hätte eine kleine Frage:
                  Ich bekomme über einen Datenpunkt beispielsweise einen numerischen Wert (von 0 bis unendlich). In der Visu würde ich gerne den Wert nur dann anzeigen, wenn der Wert größer als null ist. Wie kann ich das anstellen. Habe bereits schon versucht die CSS entsprechend einzusetzen, allerdings ohne Erfolg. Hätte villeicht jemand ein Beispiel für mich, an dem ich mich orientieren kann?

                  Danke schonmal,

                  Dominik

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                  • Dominik RehmD Dominik Rehm

                    Hallo zusammen,
                    sehr schönes Projekt.
                    Hätte eine kleine Frage:
                    Ich bekomme über einen Datenpunkt beispielsweise einen numerischen Wert (von 0 bis unendlich). In der Visu würde ich gerne den Wert nur dann anzeigen, wenn der Wert größer als null ist. Wie kann ich das anstellen. Habe bereits schon versucht die CSS entsprechend einzusetzen, allerdings ohne Erfolg. Hätte villeicht jemand ein Beispiel für mich, an dem ich mich orientieren kann?

                    Danke schonmal,

                    Dominik

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                    ps1304
                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                    #46

                    @dominik-rehm
                    kannst Du mit ner Überschreibung machen - 2ter Tab bei den Eigenschaften des DP. Die Farbe >0 dann entsprechend anpassen.

                    {
                        ">0": {
                            "fill": "#FFCE4A"
                        },
                        "==0": {
                            "fill": "rgb(0,0,0,0)"
                        }
                    }
                    
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                    • wendy2702W wendy2702

                      Hi,

                      da ich kein besonders großer Grafik und Design Profi bin würde ich mich freuen wenn Ihr in diesem Thread eure Energiefluss-Erweitert Ansichten zeigen könntet. Da kann nicht nur ich mir anregungen holen und gezielt Fragen stellen.

                      Freue mich auf eure Umsetzungen.

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                      JoP
                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von JoP
                      #47

                      @wendy2702
                      Meine Visualisierung gehört in die Kategorie maßlos übertrieben.Aber so kann ich an einer zentralen Stelle die ganzen Energieflüsse auch Warmwasser und Heizungswasser sehen. Die schwarzen Quadrate mit den roten Kreisen sind ESBE 3-Wege-Ventile.
                      Habe zwei Wasserspeicher an der Wärmepumpe: einen für Warmwasser und einen für die Heizung, weil ich im Sommer auch kühle.

                      Energiefluss_2025_05_20_JP.jpeg

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                      • Marko HinrichsenM Offline
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                        Marko Hinrichsen
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #48

                        Hi,

                        ich bin ein absoluter Fan vom Energiefluss Adapter. VIS hat mir für meine Anforderung einfach nicht das geliefert was ich gesucht habe. Ich habe einen Monitor der den Tag über läuft und mir die wichtigsten Informationen anzeigt und zwar kompakt auf einer Seite. Genau das habe ich gesucht.

                        Danke dafür....

                        Screenshot 2025-06-18 09.52.20.png

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                        • wendy2702W wendy2702

                          Hi,

                          da ich kein besonders großer Grafik und Design Profi bin würde ich mich freuen wenn Ihr in diesem Thread eure Energiefluss-Erweitert Ansichten zeigen könntet. Da kann nicht nur ich mir anregungen holen und gezielt Fragen stellen.

                          Freue mich auf eure Umsetzungen.

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                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #49

                          @wendy2702 sagte in Energiefluss-Erweitert Ansichten:

                          würde ich mich freuen wenn Ihr in diesem Thread eure Energiefluss-Erweitert Ansichten zeigen könntet

                          Gerne, aber ich muss die kurz Erklären :-)

                          Das wird auf einem 7 Zoll Monitor dargestellt, die obere Reihe von links nach rechts ist die "Insel 3000", diese Lädt einen 7KW Akku, daneben ist das BKW und die PWS, die Energie geht ins Hausnetz, weiter rechts haben wir die
                          "Insel 2000", die lädt einen 3,8kw Akku.
                          Darunter noch ein paar Verbraucher, wie die Klimaanlage (wird von der Insel 3000 mit Strom versorgt).

                          2025-06-18_10-24.png

                          Gruß Master67

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                          • Marko HinrichsenM Marko Hinrichsen

                            Hi,

                            ich bin ein absoluter Fan vom Energiefluss Adapter. VIS hat mir für meine Anforderung einfach nicht das geliefert was ich gesucht habe. Ich habe einen Monitor der den Tag über läuft und mir die wichtigsten Informationen anzeigt und zwar kompakt auf einer Seite. Genau das habe ich gesucht.

                            Danke dafür....

                            Screenshot 2025-06-18 09.52.20.png

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                            warp735
                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #50

                            @marko-hinrichsen
                            Ist das ein 65" Monitor? Würd noch mehr Info´s reinpacken. Machts übersichtlicher... ;-)

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                            • wendy2702W wendy2702

                              Hi,

                              da ich kein besonders großer Grafik und Design Profi bin würde ich mich freuen wenn Ihr in diesem Thread eure Energiefluss-Erweitert Ansichten zeigen könntet. Da kann nicht nur ich mir anregungen holen und gezielt Fragen stellen.

                              Freue mich auf eure Umsetzungen.

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                              ps1304
                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von ps1304
                              #51

                              Für alle Besitzer einer E3DC Anlage:

                              ich nutze den RSCP Adapter, um die Daten in den iobroker zu ziehen.

                              1d09fadc-8bf7-43c8-8d76-0a3b2f9c7dbe-image.png

                              hier das config file:

                              {
                                "basic": {
                                  "enable_grid": true,
                                  "enable_animation": true,
                                  "enable_area_catch": true,
                                  "enable_config_icon": false,
                                  "enable_last_id": false,
                                  "enable_icon_proxy": false,
                                  "enable_low_performance": false,
                                  "height": 1200,
                                  "width": 2000,
                                  "styles": "#svg_display{\n background-image: url(\"https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1439792675105-701e6a4ab6f0?q=80&w=4000&auto=format&fit=crop&ixlib=rb-4.0.3&ixid=M3wxMjA3fDB8MHxwaG90by1wYWdlfHx8fGVufDB8fHx8fA%3D%3D");\n height: 100%;\n  width: 100%;\n  background-repeat: no-repeat;\n  background-size: cover;\n  position: absolute;\n  border-radius: 20;\n background-color: #cccccc;\n}\n.glow {\n  animation: glow 3s ease-in-out infinite alternate;\n}\n\n@-webkit-keyframes glow {\n  from {\n    text-shadow: 0 0 10px #fff, 0 0 20px #0000ff, 0 0 30px #0000ff, 0 0 40px #0000ff, 0 0 50px #0000ff, 0 0 60px #0000ff, 0 0 70px #0000ff;\n  }\n  \n  to {\n    text-shadow: 0 0 20px #FFB266, 0 0 30px #FFB266, 0 0 40px #FFB266, 0 0 50px #FFB266, 0 0 60px #FFB266, 0 0 70px #FFB266, 0 0 80px #FFB266;\n    }\n}\n.blink_value {\n  transition: opacity .4s ease-in-out;\n  animation-name: animation_blink;\n  animation-timing-function: ease-in;\n  animation-duration: 1.6s;\n  animation-iteration-count: infinite;\n}\n \n@keyframes animation_blink {\n    50% {\n        opacity: 0.4;\n    }\n}\n#https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2019/12/16/22/08/sky-4700394_1280.jpg",
                                  "font": {
                                    "family": "\"Comic Sans MS\", cursiv",
                                    "size": "12",
                                    "color": "",
                                    "fill": "#171717",
                                    "align": "middle"
                                  },
                                  "rect": {
                                    "height": 100,
                                    "width": 100,
                                    "corners": 10
                                  },
                                  "circle": {
                                    "radius": 50
                                  },
                                  "elm": {
                                    "stroke_width": 2,
                                    "color": "",
                                    "fill": "",
                                    "pos_x": 300,
                                    "pos_y": 300
                                  },
                                  "icon": {
                                    "height": 24,
                                    "width": 24,
                                    "color": ""
                                  },
                                  "background_color": "#7A8E8EF5",
                                  "enable_show_coordinates": true,
                                  "tourVisited": true
                                },
                                "calculation": {
                                  "battery": {
                                    "dod": 68,
                                    "capacity": 39,
                                    "percent": 6,
                                    "charge": 4,
                                    "charge_prop": false,
                                    "charge_kw": false,
                                    "discharge": 4,
                                    "discharge_prop": true,
                                    "discharge_kw": false
                                  },
                                  "consumption": {
                                    "production": [
                                      "0"
                                    ],
                                    "production_kw": false,
                                    "gridFeed": 3,
                                    "gridFeed_kw": false,
                                    "gridFeed_prop": true,
                                    "gridConsume": 3,
                                    "gridConsume_kw": false,
                                    "gridConsume_prop": false,
                                    "batteryCharge": 4,
                                    "batteryCharge_kw": false,
                                    "batteryCharge_prop": false,
                                    "batteryDischarge": 4,
                                    "batteryDischarge_kw": false,
                                    "batteryDischarge_prop": true
                                  }
                                },
                                "animation": {
                                  "stroke_dasharray": "1 10 1 10 1 10 1 10 1 10 1 10 1 10 1 10 1 10 1  36",
                                  "stroke_width": 8,
                                  "animation_duration": 3500,
                                  "stroke_linecap": "round",
                                  "animation_timing_function": "linear"
                                },
                                "animation_configuration": {
                                  "dots": 10,
                                  "distance": 10,
                                  "length": 1
                                },
                                "line": {
                                  "stroke_width": 8,
                                  "stroke": "#000000"
                                },
                                "elements": {
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                                    "position": 60,
                                    "type": "text",
                                    "subType": "datasource",
                                    "id": 28,
                                    "pos_x": 1187,
                                    "pos_y": 578,
                                    "color": "none",
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                                    "source_option": -1,
                                    "source_display": "auto",
                                    "shadow": "rgb(196, 196, 196)",
                                    "threshold": 0,
                                    "calculate_kw": "none",
                                    "counter_animation": true,
                                    "convert": false,
                                    "decimal_places": 0,
                                    "action": "none",
                                    "subtract": [
                                      -1
                                    ],
                                    "add": [
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                                    ],
                                    "frame": "_overlay",
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                                        "fill": "#F20E40"
                                      }
                                    },
                                    "prepend": "aktuell",
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                                    "source_action": 2,
                                    "linebreak": 8
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                              • wendy2702W wendy2702

                                Hi,

                                da ich kein besonders großer Grafik und Design Profi bin würde ich mich freuen wenn Ihr in diesem Thread eure Energiefluss-Erweitert Ansichten zeigen könntet. Da kann nicht nur ich mir anregungen holen und gezielt Fragen stellen.

                                Freue mich auf eure Umsetzungen.

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                                Hallo,

                                hier mal meine Ansicht für eine Bewässerung, noch in Arbeit und ein bisschen Zweckentfremdet. :grinning:
                                Funktioniert aber einwandfrei.

                                Screenshot (1247).png

                                Bitte benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.
                                Immer Daten sichern!

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                                  meine kleine und mit Absicht sehr schlichte Ansicht. Das ganze ist auf einem Tablet im Hauseingangsbereich und soll lediglich den schnellen Blick auf den Stromfluss geben. Neben den dynamischen Verbrauchslinien ist die einzige "Spielerei" dass der SOC des Akkus in mehreren Schritten füllstandsmäßig angezeigt wird:

                                  e84d2431-0024-4cb9-beea-6b681540d0c2-image.png

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                                  • M micklafisch

                                    meine kleine und mit Absicht sehr schlichte Ansicht. Das ganze ist auf einem Tablet im Hauseingangsbereich und soll lediglich den schnellen Blick auf den Stromfluss geben. Neben den dynamischen Verbrauchslinien ist die einzige "Spielerei" dass der SOC des Akkus in mehreren Schritten füllstandsmäßig angezeigt wird:

                                    e84d2431-0024-4cb9-beea-6b681540d0c2-image.png

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                                    @micklafisch
                                    Gefällt mir :+1:
                                    Hier gibts ja Ansichten, die dermaßen überladen und bombenvoll mit Miniinformationen, das ich nicht verstehen kann, dass das manchen gefällt. Da brauch man ja ne Lupe um was zu erkennen. Sind dann noch meistens die, die hier über 4k Screenshots maulen :sunglasses:

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