Update System iobroker failed

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

am I right

Reinstall OS on the new one
install iobroker with yout command

And after? restore from the backup made?

YES!!

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

history is just for temperature... not big issue even if I lost it.

even though, save the folder /opt/iobroker/iobroker-data/history and simply copy it back on the new install.

other questions answered by Thomas. You won't get other answers by me

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Stupid question... how can I save my backup file from iobroker

There are no stupid questions at all - just stupid answers!

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Can I do it from my PC windows?

use filezilla, but log in as the same user u will use later on. it should be pi

[Tiger]

@thomas-braun
ok I will try... perhaps too hard for my actual knowledge...

I'll comeback when new sdcard will be operating, and when I will have made the command you asked to install.

What I'm going to do...

• Copy the iobroker backup on USB key
• restore from image disk to have access to my domotics
• on new SDcard, install the last Raspberry OSbit without desktop
• install iobroker

and come back to have your support.

Many thanks to both of you for your help and time

[Tiger]

@homoran said in Update System iobroker failed:

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Stupid question... how can I save my backup file from iobroker

There are no stupid questions at all - just stupid answers!

so what is the answer?

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Can I do it from my PC windows?

use filezilla, but log in as the same user u will use later on. it should be pi

Filezilla is to send the iobroker backup if I'm right

sorry to much information for me today lol

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

perhaps too hard for my actual knowledge...

no, I'm sure!
but if you insist, we will brush up your skills.

please ask!

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Copy the iobroker backup on USB key

that's another possibility - ok

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

restore from image disk to have access to my domotics

don't know about this stuff.
but if you still "play back" an image/mirrored disk, you also play back all faulty stuff.
This wouldn't be a good idea

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

and come back to have your support.

we will wait for you!

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

so what is the answer?

@homoran sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

use filezilla, but log in as the same user u will use later on. it should be pi

filezilla is a file transfer programm using sftp

[Tiger]

@homoran said in Update System iobroker failed:

don't know about this stuff.
but if you still "play back" an image/mirrored disk, you also play back all faulty stuff.
This wouldn't be a good idea

Of course there is fault, but it's the image of my sdcard when everything was working and all adapters was working too.
With this image, I will be able to have all instances and adapters installed if needed for you

If i install everything new on a new Sdcard after... I don't see the problem.

The only things that I've not in this imagedisk is the backup of iobroker from this morning, that's why I want to have it

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

when everything was working and all adapters was working too.

but also with very very old versions, which may not be able to be updated as we have seen today, or am I wrong?

And you can not play back that image and install the latest OS. this will be overwritten

[Tiger]

@homoran
I agree, I'll made a new SD Card.
With all new...
Just hopped that the backup of IOBROKER will avoid me to reprogram everything.

But in this way, I'll always have a version of SD Card with something working untill I've finished the new and correct one

version of OS without desktop... will I have internet navigator on it? will it be started from cmd as we made since the beginning?

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

But in this way, I'll always have a version of SD Card with something working untill I've finished the new and correct one

that was the plan! a kind of hardware backup

will I have internet navigator on it?

what for?
a server is maintained by console

[Tiger]

@homoran said in Update System iobroker failed:

what for?
a server is maintained by console

As I don't know the navigation by console

that why I thing it should be better for me with desktop instead of your proposal. if not, even to upload log file it will be difficult... today I had just to drag and drop the file... one step by one step

Today was a good day as I'm on holiday, but after will be more difficult

Anyway, with or without desktop, we'll achieve a good installation thanks to your help.

once I'll have found back my old trouble version but working... I'll give you the instance and adapter installed

Many thanks

[Thomas Braun]

@tiger

It's easier to maintain a server without a desktop.

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

As I don't know the navigation by console

not now! but you will do!
there is just a little you have to do by cmd.
(concerning iob!)
I don't know what the other applications need

[Tiger]

@homoran
@thomas-braun

to finish, after a big stress as I had an error from win32diskimage when writting the old files... but was ok the second time...
All is working as before...

So I've listed instances and adapters (some don't need and was installed for test)
Really need should be at least :

• Node-Red
• Alexa
• S7
• history
• Rfxcom
• Zigbee
• Vis
• script is also used

result for the both list

please stay sit down before reading the version of all my adapters

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ iobroker list adapters
system.adapter.admin                   : admin          - v4.0.10
system.adapter.alexa2                  : alexa2         - v3.9.1
system.adapter.chromecast              : chromecast     - v2.3.1
system.adapter.cloud                   : cloud          - v3.0.4
system.adapter.daswetter               : daswetter      - v3.0.1
system.adapter.discovery               : discovery      - v2.3.7
system.adapter.flot                    : flot           - v1.9.2
system.adapter.history                 : history        - v1.9.10
system.adapter.homeconnect             : homeconnect    - v0.0.30
system.adapter.info                    : info           - v1.7.2
system.adapter.iot                     : iot            - v1.5.3
system.adapter.javascript              : javascript     - v4.6.26
system.adapter.lovelace                : lovelace       - v1.0.16
system.adapter.mqtt                    : mqtt           - v2.1.4
system.adapter.node-red                : node-red       - v1.17.2
system.adapter.ping                    : ping           - v1.4.8
system.adapter.rfxcom                  : rfxcom         - v1.0.1
system.adapter.s7                      : s7             - v1.1.9
system.adapter.scenes                  : scenes         - v1.1.0
system.adapter.socketio                : socketio       - v3.0.13
system.adapter.sonoff                  : sonoff         - v2.3.3
system.adapter.sonus                   : sonus          - v0.1.1
system.adapter.sql                     : sql            - v1.15.2
system.adapter.text2command            : text2command   - v1.3.0
system.adapter.upnp                    : upnp           - v1.0.16
system.adapter.vis                     : vis            - v1.4.15
system.adapter.vis-canvas-gauges       : vis-canvas-gauges - v0.1.5
system.adapter.vis-colorpicker         : vis-colorpicker - v1.1.1
system.adapter.vis-fancyswitch         : vis-fancyswitch - v1.1.0
system.adapter.vis-history             : vis-history    - v1.0.0
system.adapter.vis-hqwidgets           : vis-hqwidgets  - v1.1.4
system.adapter.vis-jqui-mfd            : vis-jqui-mfd   - v1.0.12
system.adapter.vis-justgage            : vis-justgage   - v1.0.2
system.adapter.vis-metro               : vis-metro      - v1.1.2
system.adapter.vis-timeandweather      : vis-timeandweather - v1.1.7
system.adapter.vis-weather             : vis-weather    - v2.5.2
system.adapter.web                     : web            - v3.0.12
system.adapter.zigbee                  : zigbee         - v1.2.1
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ iobroker list instances
+ system.adapter.admin.0                 : admin                 -  enabled, port: 8081, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
+ system.adapter.chromecast.0            : chromecast            -  enabled
+ system.adapter.cloud.0                 : cloud                 -  enabled
  system.adapter.daswetter.0             : daswetter             -  enabled
+ system.adapter.discovery.0             : discovery             -  enabled
  system.adapter.flot.0                  : flot                  -  enabled
+ system.adapter.history.0               : history               -  enabled
+ system.adapter.homeconnect.0           : homeconnect           -  enabled
+ system.adapter.info.0                  : info                  -  enabled
+ system.adapter.iot.0                   : iot                   -  enabled
+ system.adapter.javascript.0            : javascript            -  enabled
+ system.adapter.node-red.0              : node-red              -  enabled, port: 1880, bind: 0.0.0.0
+ system.adapter.ping.0                  : ping                  -  enabled
+ system.adapter.rfxcom.0                : rfxcom                -  enabled
+ system.adapter.s7.0                    : s7                    -  enabled
+ system.adapter.s7.1                    : s7                    -  enabled
+ system.adapter.scenes.0                : scenes                -  enabled
+ system.adapter.socketio.0              : socketio              -  enabled, port: 8084, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
+ system.adapter.sql.0                   : sql                   -  enabled
+ system.adapter.text2command.0          : text2command          -  enabled
+ system.adapter.upnp.0                  : upnp                  -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-canvas-gauges.0     : vis-canvas-gauges     -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-colorpicker.0       : vis-colorpicker       -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-fancyswitch.0       : vis-fancyswitch       -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-history.0           : vis-history           -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-hqwidgets.0         : vis-hqwidgets         -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-jqui-mfd.0          : vis-jqui-mfd          -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-justgage.0          : vis-justgage          -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-metro.0             : vis-metro             -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-timeandweather.0    : vis-timeandweather    -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-weather.0           : vis-weather           -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis.0                   : vis                   -  enabled
+ system.adapter.web.0                   : web                   -  enabled, port: 8082, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
+ system.adapter.zigbee.0                : zigbee                -  enabled, port: /dev/ttyACM0

+ instance is alive

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ node -v
v10.22.0

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ npm -v
6.14.6

Thanks for your help, your time and your patient

[Tiger]

@homoran
Hello,
so, I bought the Sdcard, installed OS Lite...
Connect to my wifi and installed iobroker.

Now I have access to iobroker from my web browser on my PC.

One question, If I understood well, it is possible to connect to the Raspberry pi with computer and made all modification and command from the PC and not directly on the Raspberry Pi correct?
As finally the Raspberry will not be connected to a Screen and keyboard...

But I didn't yet search to do it, one step...

So now, what is the next step to restore the backup ?
Actually the backup is saved on my computer.
And in the webpage of iobroker it's written "WELCOME" and wanted to start the assistant.

Thanks in advance

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Now I have access to iobroker from my web browser on my PC.

wonderful! ...but...

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Connect to my wifi

why wifi? wired is more stable. No one recommends wifi for a server.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

One question, If I understood well, it is possible to connect to the Raspberry pi with computer and made all modification and command from the PC and not directly on the Raspberry Pi correct?

correct!

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

But I didn't yet search to do it, one step...

get yourself a ssh client. i prefer puTTY, but you also can use powershell.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Actually the backup is saved on my computer.

therefore you'll need a filetransfer program as filezilla.
If you login to your raspi you should use the credentials of your user you installed iobroker with

caution.
if you know what to do don't use the discovery. just follow the initisl steps and if you choose using credentials, write them down!

[Tiger]

@homoran

why wifi? wired is more stable. No one recommends wifi for a server.
Juste because The place where it will be has no wired connexion

get yourself a ssh client. i prefer puTTY, but you also can use powershell.
i'm going to saerch with the SSH as I saw it directly on raspberry

therefore you'll need a filetransfer program as filezilla.
If you login to your raspi you should use the credentials of your user you installed iobroker with

This is the biggest point... where You lost me...
instead of filezilla, can I put on USB key? more easy for me I think.

caution.
if you know what to do don't use the discovery. just follow the initisl steps and if you choose using credentials, write them down!

Are you speaking chinese?
follow the intialization steps... Supposed you are speaking about the assistant shown in the web browser with iobroker.

what I didn't understood (perhaps you didn't mentionned presently) is once initialization step will be done, how I will use the restore...
in my idea, is from USB key, and I supposed that qitch the command we will restore and used the file on the usb key

don't forget I was a newbee on System installation and upgrade, but already a very big newbee to work only with command

[Tiger]

@homoran

Juste one more point...
Can I change the password of my Raspberry? I let the "pi" username, but if I activate the SSH... It should be better to have another password.

Thanks

[Thomas Braun]

@tiger

Change your password in

sudo raspi-config

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

instead of filezilla, can I put on USB key? more easy for me I think.

but not for me

surely you can do. But I don't know about mount and so.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Are you speaking chinese?

no! it's suaheli!

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Supposed you are speaking about the assistant shown in the web browser with iobroker.

Yes!
but after the initial settings, there you will be asked to start an automated device search. (this is the discovery adapter)
I think you don't need it. Maybe it will bring more confusion than benefits.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

how I will use the restore...

using the cli with iobroker restore filenameOfBackup you first have to copy the backup into /opt/iobroker/backups. after a clean install you have to create this folder

then you can call the restore command with the appropriate filename

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Can I change the password of my Raspberry? I let the "pi" username, but if I activate the SSH... It should be better to have another password.

you should!
at bootup the pi will tell you that not changing it is a security issue!

[Tiger]

@homoran

ok, SSD : Done
Connexion from distant PC : Done
Password change : Done

but not for me

surely you can do. But I don't know about mount and so.

No you're a specialist If I understood weel, I have juste to copy the file from my USB key to the folder you mentionned...
If it's correct, I will search how to copy it

Searching is easy for me... finding... it's different