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[Tiger]

@homoran said in Update System iobroker failed:

don't know about this stuff.
but if you still "play back" an image/mirrored disk, you also play back all faulty stuff.
This wouldn't be a good idea

Of course there is fault, but it's the image of my sdcard when everything was working and all adapters was working too.
With this image, I will be able to have all instances and adapters installed if needed for you

If i install everything new on a new Sdcard after... I don't see the problem.

The only things that I've not in this imagedisk is the backup of iobroker from this morning, that's why I want to have it :)

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

when everything was working and all adapters was working too.

but also with very very old versions, which may not be able to be updated as we have seen today, or am I wrong?

And you can not play back that image and install the latest OS. this will be overwritten

[Tiger]

@homoran
I agree, I'll made a new SD Card.
With all new...
Just hopped that the backup of IOBROKER will avoid me to reprogram everything.

But in this way, I'll always have a version of SD Card with something working untill I've finished the new and correct one :)

version of OS without desktop... will I have internet navigator on it? will it be started from cmd as we made since the beginning?

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

But in this way, I'll always have a version of SD Card with something working untill I've finished the new and correct one

that was the plan! a kind of hardware backup

will I have internet navigator on it?

what for?
a server is maintained by console

[Tiger]

@homoran said in Update System iobroker failed:

what for?
a server is maintained by console

As I don't know the navigation by console :)

that why I thing it should be better for me with desktop instead of your proposal. if not, even to upload log file it will be difficult... today I had just to drag and drop the file... one step by one step :)

Today was a good day as I'm on holiday, but after will be more difficult ;)

Anyway, with or without desktop, we'll achieve a good installation thanks to your help.

once I'll have found back my old trouble version but working... I'll give you the instance and adapter installed

Many thanks

[Thomas Braun]

@tiger

It's easier to maintain a server without a desktop.

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

As I don't know the navigation by console

not now! but you will do!
there is just a little you have to do by cmd.
(concerning iob!)
I don't know what the other applications need

[Tiger]

@homoran
@thomas-braun

to finish, after a big stress as I had an error from win32diskimage when writting the old files... but was ok the second time...
All is working as before...

So I've listed instances and adapters (some don't need and was installed for test)
Really need should be at least :

• Node-Red
• Alexa
• S7
• history
• Rfxcom
• Zigbee
• Vis
• script is also used

result for the both list

please stay sit down before reading the version of all my adapters :)

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ iobroker list adapters
system.adapter.admin                   : admin          - v4.0.10
system.adapter.alexa2                  : alexa2         - v3.9.1
system.adapter.chromecast              : chromecast     - v2.3.1
system.adapter.cloud                   : cloud          - v3.0.4
system.adapter.daswetter               : daswetter      - v3.0.1
system.adapter.discovery               : discovery      - v2.3.7
system.adapter.flot                    : flot           - v1.9.2
system.adapter.history                 : history        - v1.9.10
system.adapter.homeconnect             : homeconnect    - v0.0.30
system.adapter.info                    : info           - v1.7.2
system.adapter.iot                     : iot            - v1.5.3
system.adapter.javascript              : javascript     - v4.6.26
system.adapter.lovelace                : lovelace       - v1.0.16
system.adapter.mqtt                    : mqtt           - v2.1.4
system.adapter.node-red                : node-red       - v1.17.2
system.adapter.ping                    : ping           - v1.4.8
system.adapter.rfxcom                  : rfxcom         - v1.0.1
system.adapter.s7                      : s7             - v1.1.9
system.adapter.scenes                  : scenes         - v1.1.0
system.adapter.socketio                : socketio       - v3.0.13
system.adapter.sonoff                  : sonoff         - v2.3.3
system.adapter.sonus                   : sonus          - v0.1.1
system.adapter.sql                     : sql            - v1.15.2
system.adapter.text2command            : text2command   - v1.3.0
system.adapter.upnp                    : upnp           - v1.0.16
system.adapter.vis                     : vis            - v1.4.15
system.adapter.vis-canvas-gauges       : vis-canvas-gauges - v0.1.5
system.adapter.vis-colorpicker         : vis-colorpicker - v1.1.1
system.adapter.vis-fancyswitch         : vis-fancyswitch - v1.1.0
system.adapter.vis-history             : vis-history    - v1.0.0
system.adapter.vis-hqwidgets           : vis-hqwidgets  - v1.1.4
system.adapter.vis-jqui-mfd            : vis-jqui-mfd   - v1.0.12
system.adapter.vis-justgage            : vis-justgage   - v1.0.2
system.adapter.vis-metro               : vis-metro      - v1.1.2
system.adapter.vis-timeandweather      : vis-timeandweather - v1.1.7
system.adapter.vis-weather             : vis-weather    - v2.5.2
system.adapter.web                     : web            - v3.0.12
system.adapter.zigbee                  : zigbee         - v1.2.1
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ iobroker list instances
+ system.adapter.admin.0                 : admin                 -  enabled, port: 8081, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
+ system.adapter.chromecast.0            : chromecast            -  enabled
+ system.adapter.cloud.0                 : cloud                 -  enabled
  system.adapter.daswetter.0             : daswetter             -  enabled
+ system.adapter.discovery.0             : discovery             -  enabled
  system.adapter.flot.0                  : flot                  -  enabled
+ system.adapter.history.0               : history               -  enabled
+ system.adapter.homeconnect.0           : homeconnect           -  enabled
+ system.adapter.info.0                  : info                  -  enabled
+ system.adapter.iot.0                   : iot                   -  enabled
+ system.adapter.javascript.0            : javascript            -  enabled
+ system.adapter.node-red.0              : node-red              -  enabled, port: 1880, bind: 0.0.0.0
+ system.adapter.ping.0                  : ping                  -  enabled
+ system.adapter.rfxcom.0                : rfxcom                -  enabled
+ system.adapter.s7.0                    : s7                    -  enabled
+ system.adapter.s7.1                    : s7                    -  enabled
+ system.adapter.scenes.0                : scenes                -  enabled
+ system.adapter.socketio.0              : socketio              -  enabled, port: 8084, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
+ system.adapter.sql.0                   : sql                   -  enabled
+ system.adapter.text2command.0          : text2command          -  enabled
+ system.adapter.upnp.0                  : upnp                  -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-canvas-gauges.0     : vis-canvas-gauges     -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-colorpicker.0       : vis-colorpicker       -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-fancyswitch.0       : vis-fancyswitch       -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-history.0           : vis-history           -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-hqwidgets.0         : vis-hqwidgets         -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-jqui-mfd.0          : vis-jqui-mfd          -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-justgage.0          : vis-justgage          -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-metro.0             : vis-metro             -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-timeandweather.0    : vis-timeandweather    -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis-weather.0           : vis-weather           -  enabled
  system.adapter.vis.0                   : vis                   -  enabled
+ system.adapter.web.0                   : web                   -  enabled, port: 8082, bind: 0.0.0.0, run as: admin
+ system.adapter.zigbee.0                : zigbee                -  enabled, port: /dev/ttyACM0

+ instance is alive

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ node -v
v10.22.0

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ npm -v
6.14.6

Thanks for your help, your time and your patient :)

[Tiger]

@homoran
Hello,
so, I bought the Sdcard, installed OS Lite...
Connect to my wifi and installed iobroker.

Now I have access to iobroker from my web browser on my PC.

One question, If I understood well, it is possible to connect to the Raspberry pi with computer and made all modification and command from the PC and not directly on the Raspberry Pi correct?
As finally the Raspberry will not be connected to a Screen and keyboard...

But I didn't yet search to do it, one step...

So now, what is the next step to restore the backup ?
Actually the backup is saved on my computer.
And in the webpage of iobroker it's written "WELCOME" and wanted to start the assistant.

Thanks in advance

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Now I have access to iobroker from my web browser on my PC.

wonderful! ...but...

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Connect to my wifi

why wifi? wired is more stable. No one recommends wifi for a server.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

One question, If I understood well, it is possible to connect to the Raspberry pi with computer and made all modification and command from the PC and not directly on the Raspberry Pi correct?

correct!

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

But I didn't yet search to do it, one step...

get yourself a ssh client. i prefer puTTY, but you also can use powershell.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Actually the backup is saved on my computer.

therefore you'll need a filetransfer program as filezilla.
If you login to your raspi you should use the credentials of your user you installed iobroker with

caution.
if you know what to do don't use the discovery. just follow the initisl steps and if you choose using credentials, write them down!

[Tiger]

@homoran

why wifi? wired is more stable. No one recommends wifi for a server.
Juste because The place where it will be has no wired connexion

get yourself a ssh client. i prefer puTTY, but you also can use powershell.
i'm going to saerch with the SSH as I saw it directly on raspberry

therefore you'll need a filetransfer program as filezilla.
If you login to your raspi you should use the credentials of your user you installed iobroker with

This is the biggest point... where You lost me...
instead of filezilla, can I put on USB key? more easy for me I think.

caution.
if you know what to do don't use the discovery. just follow the initisl steps and if you choose using credentials, write them down!

Are you speaking chinese? :blush:
follow the intialization steps... Supposed you are speaking about the assistant shown in the web browser with iobroker.

what I didn't understood (perhaps you didn't mentionned presently) is once initialization step will be done, how I will use the restore...
in my idea, is from USB key, and I supposed that qitch the command we will restore and used the file on the usb key

don't forget I was a newbee on System installation and upgrade, but already a very big newbee to work only with command :)

[Tiger]

@homoran

Juste one more point...
Can I change the password of my Raspberry? I let the "pi" username, but if I activate the SSH... It should be better to have another password.

Thanks

[Thomas Braun]

@tiger

Change your password in

sudo raspi-config

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

instead of filezilla, can I put on USB key? more easy for me I think.

but not for me :-)

surely you can do. But I don't know about mount and so.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Are you speaking chinese?

no! it's suaheli!

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Supposed you are speaking about the assistant shown in the web browser with iobroker.

Yes!
but after the initial settings, there you will be asked to start an automated device search. (this is the discovery adapter)
I think you don't need it. Maybe it will bring more confusion than benefits.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

how I will use the restore...

using the cli with iobroker restore filenameOfBackup you first have to copy the backup into /opt/iobroker/backups. after a clean install you have to create this folder

then you can call the restore command with the appropriate filename

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

Can I change the password of my Raspberry? I let the "pi" username, but if I activate the SSH... It should be better to have another password.

you should!
at bootup the pi will tell you that not changing it is a security issue!

[Tiger]

@homoran

ok, SSD : Done
Connexion from distant PC : Done
Password change : Done

but not for me 🙂

surely you can do. But I don't know about mount and so.

No you're a specialist :) If I understood weel, I have juste to copy the file from my USB key to the folder you mentionned...
If it's correct, I will search how to copy it :)

Searching is easy for me... finding... it's different :blush:

[Homoran]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

No you're a specialist

no I'm just a regular user! Maybe a little advanced by nearly 10 years with iobroker.

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

have juste to copy the file from my USB key to the folder you mentionned...

but don't change the rights

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

If it's correct, I will search how to copy it
Searching is easy for me... finding... it's different

let's ask @Thomas-Braun , he really is the specialist for linux commands

[Tiger]

@homoran said in Update System iobroker failed:

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

have juste to copy the file from my USB key to the folder you mentionned...

but don't change the rights

You instist, but how can I change the rights?
I've just coopy the backup file from the old Sdcard...
Used same user in the Raspberry.

Or you mean the username and password of iobroker? if it's that... I've to restart and you've to tell me how to find it frome the old system... and hoping I can change this... if not I will have to restart from beginning :)

or there is something I'd miss... we'll see...

no I'm just a regular user! Maybe a little advanced by nearly 10 years with iobroker.

Maybe? for sure :)

[Thomas Braun]

@tiger

The backup file is on the usb stick now?
And it is sticking in the USB port of your raspberry?

[Tiger]

@thomas-braun
yes it is
and USB key is inserted
file name is

[Thomas Braun]

@tiger sagte in Update System iobroker failed:

and USB key is inserted
file name is

Which path?
Is that FileZilla that you are using as a filemanager?