Ausstieg aus ndcu

Thomas Braun

Weil ich gerade darüber gestolpert bin:

https://www.golem.de/news/in-eigener-sache-linux-e-learning-zum-einfuehrungspreis-2205-165583.html

GOETSCHHOFER

Ist für mich irgendwie unerklärlich, dass die Datei-Backup-Größe bei der VM-iobroker von 6 auf 14 GB gestiegen ist und anschließend nach Löschen der backups in opt/iobroker/backups auf 3 GB gesunken ist.
So einen niedrige Dateigröße beim backup bei der VM-iobroker hatte ich überhaupt noch nie. :thinking_face:

GOETSCHHOFER

@thomas-braun said in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

@goetschhofer

Weil ich gerade darüber gestolpert bin:

https://www.golem.de/news/in-eigener-sache-linux-e-learning-zum-einfuehrungspreis-2205-165583.html

Danke, ich denke den werde ich in den nächsten Tagen buchen.

crunchip

@goetschhofer sagte in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

Ist für mich irgendwie unerklärlich, dass die Datei-Backup-Größe bei der VM-iobroker von 6 auf 14 GB gestiegen

also nochmal zum Verständnis

wenn du es korrekt im backitup Adapter eingerichtet hast(Haken gesetzt bei löschen alter Sicherungen), nur dann werden die backups im Ordner /opt/iobroker/backups nach erfolgreichem Backup dort automatisch gelöscht, das bedeutet, dieses Verzeichnis bleibt eigentlich immer leer.

aber

sollte aus irgendwelchen Gründen ein Fehler beim Backup entstehen, so verbleiben die Backups in /opt/iobroker/backups und werden nicht automatisch gelöscht.
zusätzlich,
jedes manuell angestoßene Backup verbleibt ebenfalls dort und muss manuell gelöscht werden.

GOETSCHHOFER

@crunchip

Danke für die sehr ausführliche und plausible Erklärung. :+1:

Ja, ich hatte da in den letzten Wochen wieder backups, welche nicht korrekt durchgelaufen sind.

Den Ordner /opt/iobroker/backups werde ich mir zukünftig 1 x wöchentlich anschauen.

Der Hacken ist gesetzt.

Thomas Braun

@goetschhofer

36 Adapter-Updates plus den Host?
Da würde ich mal rangehen, bevor das komplett überwuchert.

GOETSCHHOFER

@thomas-braun said in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

@goetschhofer

36 Adapter-Updates plus den Host?
Da würde ich mal rangehen, bevor das komplett überwuchert.

Hallo Thomas,

ja, diese Baustelle schiebe ich schon einige Zeit vor mir her. :face_with_head_bandage:
Da wollte ich mir Tipps im Forum einholen, wie ich dieses Aufräumen schrittweise angehen soll, bevor ich hier eine Bauchlandung mache.

Ich hätte noch einige Verständnisfragen zum Thema backup:
Habe am 21.5. alle alten backups im Verzeichnis opt/iobroker/backups gelöscht.
Hacken zum Löschen ist im backitup-Adapter gesetzt.
Trotzdem sammelt er offenbar die backups seit gestern wieder ?

Danke

crunchip

@goetschhofer dann musst du dir das log ansehen, was beim backup passiert

GOETSCHHOFER

@crunchip said in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

@goetschhofer dann musst du dir das log ansehen, was beim backup passiert

Sorry, habe ich übersehen gleich anzuhängen.
Ja, habe ich mir in der Task Histroy in proxmox anschließend gleich angeschaut, aber hier ist aus meiner Sicht nichts auffälliges.

Danke

crunchip

@goetschhofer sagte in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

Task Histroy in proxmox

Das ist was anderes, es geht ums backup vom backitup Adapter

GOETSCHHOFER

@crunchip
Das ist was anderes, es geht ums backup vom backitup Adapter

Wie kann ich mir das log vom backitup-Adapter anschauen ?
Im Adapter selbst finde ich nichts.

Danke

crunchip

@goetschhofer auf debug stellen, backup manuell machen

Edit
anderfalls die ganze Instanz auf debug stellen, wenn das oben gezeigte nicht genügend Informationen liefert

GOETSCHHOFER

@crunchip
Kann es sein, dass er die Dateien bis auf eingestellte 3 nicht löscht, da ich bei Grafana-backitup eine Fehlermeldung habe ?

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Ebenso fehlt Grafana im Verzeichnis opt/iobroker/backups/...

Bei Grafana habe ich am 11.5.2022 die letzte Datensicherung am Fritz-NAS.

Vielen Dank

Thomas Braun · Bei Grafana habe ich am 11.5.2022 die letzte Datensicherung am Fritz-NAS.

@goetschhofer

Wenn ich das chaotische Zeug im Spoiler (Bitte statt SpoilerTags besser die CodeTags verwenden!) richtig lese wird da FTP verwendet. Ich würde SMB/CIFS für das FritzNAS verwenden.

GOETSCHHOFER

@thomas-braun said in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

Wenn ich das chaotische Zeug im Spoiler (Bitte statt SpoilerTags besser die CodeTags verwenden!) richtig lese wird da FTP verwendet

Danke für den Hinweis, habe ich geändert.

Werde ich mir merken. :+1:

crunchip

@thomas-braun sagte in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

statt SpoilerTags besser die CodeTags

Bei grossen Sachen, noch besser, codetags im spoiler😉

crunchip · Bei Grafana habe ich am 11.5.2022 die letzte Datensicherung am Fritz-NAS.

@goetschhofer bei ner Fehlermeldung wird gar nix mehr gelöscht, egal was du eingestellt hast.
Weiss nicht was du da immer treibst 😄

Gab es zu dem Zeitpunkt ein Grafana update? Oder hast du da etwas geändert? (Api key)

GOETSCHHOFER

@crunchip

Ich bin mir keiner Schuld bewusst ! :worried: :thinking_face:

Kein Grafana Update seit letztem Jahr und auch kein neuer Api key etc.

Ich habe nur vor einiger Zeit die Anzahl der Updates im backitup-Adapter, welche er behalten soll von 3 auf 7 gestellt, das war mein Fehler.

"Never change a running system".

GOETSCHHOFER

@goetschhofer said in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

@crunchip

https://github.com/simatec/ioBroker.backitup/issues/510

Gleiche Fehlermeldung !

crunchip

@goetschhofer sagte in Ausstieg aus ndcu:

Kein Grafana Update seit letztem Jahr

Vielleicht hast du es gar nicht mitbekommen.
Bzw welche version hast du installiert beim backitup?
Ggf prüfe den Api key, ob dieser übereinstimmt.
Selbst das herabsetzen der Anzahl, verursacht aber keinen Fehler im backup.

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