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  • BostilB Offline
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    Bostil
    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #496

    Werde mich mal mittelfristig an diese Vorlage hier ranwagen: (Link, Details hier)

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    Basiert auf Home-Assistant, dennoch sollte es Möglichkeiten dies ähnlich in iobroker nachzubauen. Es beinhaltet aber auch spezielle Animationseffekte auf Javascript basis, wo ich noch nicht weiß, wie und ob man diese einbauen kann.

    Visualisierung im Iobroker (oder generell) empfinde ich noch als Krampf und man muss super viel Herzblut reinstecken, damit etwas einigermaßen passables herauskommt. Was Animationen und einen modernen Look angeht, ist man aber hier anscheinend sehr limitiert :-(

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    • BostilB Bostil

      Werde mich mal mittelfristig an diese Vorlage hier ranwagen: (Link, Details hier)

      e68bf866-c56b-4eca-a04a-e181116a9797-image.png

      Basiert auf Home-Assistant, dennoch sollte es Möglichkeiten dies ähnlich in iobroker nachzubauen. Es beinhaltet aber auch spezielle Animationseffekte auf Javascript basis, wo ich noch nicht weiß, wie und ob man diese einbauen kann.

      Visualisierung im Iobroker (oder generell) empfinde ich noch als Krampf und man muss super viel Herzblut reinstecken, damit etwas einigermaßen passables herauskommt. Was Animationen und einen modernen Look angeht, ist man aber hier anscheinend sehr limitiert :-(

      Enrico FischerE Offline
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      Enrico Fischer
      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Enrico Fischer
      #497

      @bostil sieht sehr gut aus.Ich denk ich werde mich da auch mal ran machen.

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      • Enrico FischerE Enrico Fischer

        @bostil sieht sehr gut aus.Ich denk ich werde mich da auch mal ran machen.

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        dos1973
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #498

        @Bostil
        Habe das auch auf dem Schirm, das in die Richtung abzukupfern…

        Ja Homeassitant scheint etwas modernere Möglichkeiten zu haben,

        @enrico-fischer
        Start sieht bereits sehr vielversprechend aus.

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        • D dos1973

          @Bostil
          Habe das auch auf dem Schirm, das in die Richtung abzukupfern…

          Ja Homeassitant scheint etwas modernere Möglichkeiten zu haben,

          @enrico-fischer
          Start sieht bereits sehr vielversprechend aus.

          BostilB Offline
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          Bostil
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Bostil
          #499

          @dos1973 @Enrico-Fischer Schön, euch als Mitstreiter begrüßen zu dürfen! :-) insbesondere dos ist mir hier schon als design-experte positiv aufgefallen: ;-)

          Habe auch schon einen ersten Anfang gemacht. Nur ein paar Minuten investiert und noch absoluter Mist. Geht mir eher links um den Balken, der schon Inhalte zeigt. Schriftart heißt übrigens "Akrobat".

          Meine spontanen Gedanken in der Umsetzung:

          • Einblendung weiterer Inhalte / Popups für weitere Details (zB Steuerung einzelner Rolläden) - wenn ich das bei Enrico richtig sehe, verlagert er die Navigationsleiste nach links ?!
            Alternative: Rechts die "Cards" öffnen durch einen Klick ein popup-widget (Widget 8), das den hauptbereich überlagert. Bin aber gespannt, wie ihr es lösen würdet.

          • ein Tastendruck auf die cards könnte auch dafür sorgen, dass sich die Karte mit einem anderen Inhalt umdreht (zB Vorderseite Temperatur und Rückseite Liniendiagramm zum Temperaturverlauf)

          • Thema "Media" aus der Vorlage finde ich schick, weil es den Screen etwas auflockert, habe aber noch keine Idee dazu, was hier stattfinden soll (Diashow, Spotify-Steuerung...)

          • Anwesenheit: wäre doch cool, wenn hier der User ein schickes Foto nett visualisiert dargestellt bekommt, falls er anwesend ist - hier hätte ich eine Idee

          • Animationen: ???

          • Look: glass_weiss als CSS element wurde hier empfohlen und verleiht den Cards zB einen schönen Weichzeichner - kann ich empfehlen, ebenso "drop shadow"

          .drop-shadow {
              -webkit-filter: drop-shadow(2px 2px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.3));
              filter: drop-shadow(2px 2px 1px rgba(0,0,0,0.3));
          
          .glass_weiss {
              background: linear-gradient(15deg, rgba(255,255, 255, 0.1), rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.1));
                  backdrop-filter: blur(5px);
              -webkit-backdrop-filter: blur(5px);
          }
          

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          • Enrico FischerE Enrico Fischer

            @bostil sieht sehr gut aus.Ich denk ich werde mich da auch mal ran machen.

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            BostilB Offline
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            Bostil
            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
            #500

            @enrico-fischer Super Anfang !!!

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            • BostilB Bostil

              @enrico-fischer Super Anfang !!!

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              Xanon
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Xanon
              #501

              Hallo zusammen, da ich nun auch schon einige Zeit dabei bin und schon diverse Visualisierungen gebaut habe und mir auch hier immer mal wieder Inspirationen eingeholt habe, möchte auch ich jetzt mal meine VISU (die ich jetzt sogar schon einige Zeit benutze) präsentieren.
              Natürlich bin ich noch nicht fertig (ist man glaube ich nie) aber Sie ist für meine Frau alltagstauglich😂
              Die Visu läuft auf einem iPad, welches an der Wand hängt.
              Was haltet Ihr davon ?

              Nun aber meine Visualisierung:
              Und hier noch ein kurzes Video :-)

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              • BostilB Bostil

                @enrico-fischer Super Anfang !!!

                Enrico FischerE Offline
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                Enrico Fischer
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #502

                @bostil Deins ist aber auch schon sehr gut.Das wetter gefällt mir.

                Hier mal mein css. Das hintergrundbild ist aus dem orginal was du gepostet hattest.

                .vis-view{
                  background: url('/vis.0/ios/background.png');
                  background-size: cover;
                  color: #e1e1e1;
                }
                
                .seitenleiste{
                      box-shadow: 0 0.3px 0.7px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.126),
                    0 0.9px 1.7px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.179), 0 1.8px 3.5px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.224),
                    0 3.7px 7.3px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.277), 0 10px 20px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4);
                  backdrop-filter: blur(20px);
                  transition: 0.5s ease;
                }
                

                Hier die BG Datei
                background.png

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                • Enrico FischerE Enrico Fischer

                  @bostil Deins ist aber auch schon sehr gut.Das wetter gefällt mir.

                  Hier mal mein css. Das hintergrundbild ist aus dem orginal was du gepostet hattest.

                  .vis-view{
                    background: url('/vis.0/ios/background.png');
                    background-size: cover;
                    color: #e1e1e1;
                  }
                  
                  .seitenleiste{
                        box-shadow: 0 0.3px 0.7px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.126),
                      0 0.9px 1.7px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.179), 0 1.8px 3.5px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.224),
                      0 3.7px 7.3px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.277), 0 10px 20px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4);
                    backdrop-filter: blur(20px);
                    transition: 0.5s ease;
                  }
                  

                  Hier die BG Datei
                  background.png

                  BostilB Offline
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                  Bostil
                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Bostil
                  #503

                  @enrico-fischer Wetter kann ich dir gerne mal als Export senden. Benötigt eben nur den "DasWetter"-Adapter, aber dieser wird eh bei den meisten schon im Einsatz sein, vermute ich.

                  Anbei:

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                  • BostilB Offline
                    BostilB Offline
                    Bostil
                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                    #504

                    Bzgl. Navigation und Ein-/Ausblenden von Detailfenstern folgender Ansatz:

                    • Anwählen der Überschrift, hier "Rolladen"

                    dcb931fb-c476-4f48-99b9-f211913d6873-image.png

                    • Es öffnet sich über ein "View in Widget 8" die dazugehörige View
                    • über das "X" am Popup kann man das Fenster wieder schließen
                    • das funktioniert schonmal ganz gut

                    6b635d3b-e1ac-4f61-912a-ea98331dee91-image.png

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                    • BostilB Bostil

                      Bzgl. Navigation und Ein-/Ausblenden von Detailfenstern folgender Ansatz:

                      • Anwählen der Überschrift, hier "Rolladen"

                      dcb931fb-c476-4f48-99b9-f211913d6873-image.png

                      • Es öffnet sich über ein "View in Widget 8" die dazugehörige View
                      • über das "X" am Popup kann man das Fenster wieder schließen
                      • das funktioniert schonmal ganz gut

                      6b635d3b-e1ac-4f61-912a-ea98331dee91-image.png

                      Enrico FischerE Offline
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                      Enrico Fischer
                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                      #505

                      @bostil Sieht doch schon ganz gut aus.Das mit dem popup ist ganz gut.so kannst auf dem Homescreen verschiedene Infowidgets erstellen und die als Schalter nutzen.

                      Hier mal mein Zwischenstand.2.png

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                      • Enrico FischerE Enrico Fischer

                        @bostil Sieht doch schon ganz gut aus.Das mit dem popup ist ganz gut.so kannst auf dem Homescreen verschiedene Infowidgets erstellen und die als Schalter nutzen.

                        Hier mal mein Zwischenstand.2.png

                        BostilB Offline
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                        Bostil
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #506

                        @enrico-fischer Sieht wirklich super aus, gefällt mir sehr! Könntest du schonmal den Code dieser View bereitstellen? Insbesondere Wetter, Schlafzimmer-Schaltfläche und dieses "Card"-Layout fügt sich super ein!

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                        • BostilB Bostil

                          @enrico-fischer Sieht wirklich super aus, gefällt mir sehr! Könntest du schonmal den Code dieser View bereitstellen? Insbesondere Wetter, Schlafzimmer-Schaltfläche und dieses "Card"-Layout fügt sich super ein!

                          Enrico FischerE Offline
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                          Enrico Fischer
                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #507

                          @bostil ist aber noch volle Baustelle.

                          2022-05-13-ios.zip

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                          • BostilB Offline
                            BostilB Offline
                            Bostil
                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #508

                            Danke dir! Auch über deine Youtube-Seite zwischenzeitlich gestolpert. Tolle Sachen machst du da in CSS :-) Spricht was dagegen einen Hintergrund zu animieren ? Wie sind deine Erfahrungen hier?

                            Andere Frage: Home Assistant scheint beim Thema VIS wohl besser dazustehen, aber was spricht eigtl dafür bei Iobroker zu bleiben ? HA wird ja noch irgendwelche Schwächen haben ...

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                            • BostilB Bostil

                              Danke dir! Auch über deine Youtube-Seite zwischenzeitlich gestolpert. Tolle Sachen machst du da in CSS :-) Spricht was dagegen einen Hintergrund zu animieren ? Wie sind deine Erfahrungen hier?

                              Andere Frage: Home Assistant scheint beim Thema VIS wohl besser dazustehen, aber was spricht eigtl dafür bei Iobroker zu bleiben ? HA wird ja noch irgendwelche Schwächen haben ...

                              Enrico FischerE Offline
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                              Enrico Fischer
                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                              #509

                              @bostil mit dem hintergrund hatte ich schon mal.Aber da brauchst echt ein Tablet an der Wand was Dampf hat.

                              Ich hatte HA mal getestet aber Yaml ist jetzt nicht wirklich meine Lieblingssprache :)

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                              • Enrico FischerE Enrico Fischer

                                @bostil mit dem hintergrund hatte ich schon mal.Aber da brauchst echt ein Tablet an der Wand was Dampf hat.

                                Ich hatte HA mal getestet aber Yaml ist jetzt nicht wirklich meine Lieblingssprache :)

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                                Bostil
                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #510

                                @enrico-fischer Danke, macht Sinn!

                                Kannst du mir noch den Original-Hintergrund mal verlinken? DANKE Dir!

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                                • BostilB Bostil

                                  @enrico-fischer Danke, macht Sinn!

                                  Kannst du mir noch den Original-Hintergrund mal verlinken? DANKE Dir!

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                                  Enrico Fischer
                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Enrico Fischer
                                  #511

                                  @bostil der Hintergrund ist in der zip mit drin.

                                  Hier aber nochmal.

                                  background.png

                                  und der code dazu

                                  .vis-view{
                                    background: url('/vis.0/ios/background.png');
                                    background-size: cover;
                                    color: #e1e1e1;
                                    font-family: 'Montserrat', sans-serif;
                                  }
                                  

                                  Und mein Zwischenstand

                                  3.png

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                                  • Enrico FischerE Enrico Fischer

                                    @bostil der Hintergrund ist in der zip mit drin.

                                    Hier aber nochmal.

                                    background.png

                                    und der code dazu

                                    .vis-view{
                                      background: url('/vis.0/ios/background.png');
                                      background-size: cover;
                                      color: #e1e1e1;
                                      font-family: 'Montserrat', sans-serif;
                                    }
                                    

                                    Und mein Zwischenstand

                                    3.png

                                    BostilB Offline
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                                    Bostil
                                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                    #512

                                    @enrico-fischer Danke dir Enrico! Sorry - ganz verpennt, dass es schon in der ZIP lag. Hatte ohne groß drauf zu achten einfach importiert.

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                                    • BostilB Offline
                                      BostilB Offline
                                      Bostil
                                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                      #513

                                      Ist noch eine lange Reise ... hier mein weiterer Stand nach längerer Arbeit heute Abend. Diesmal im Fokus: Flexibilität in den Anzeigen. Über ein Einbinden eines View in Widgets links in der Seitenleiste und unten im Footer kann man über die jeweilige Achse einfach versch. Daten durchblättern. Mal exemplarisch:

                                      124d5732-5a45-44bd-85b2-be3a7e41df34-image.png

                                      ee01498c-4acd-473f-8e7c-0f63efa6c30d-image.png

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                                      • BostilB Bostil

                                        Ist noch eine lange Reise ... hier mein weiterer Stand nach längerer Arbeit heute Abend. Diesmal im Fokus: Flexibilität in den Anzeigen. Über ein Einbinden eines View in Widgets links in der Seitenleiste und unten im Footer kann man über die jeweilige Achse einfach versch. Daten durchblättern. Mal exemplarisch:

                                        124d5732-5a45-44bd-85b2-be3a7e41df34-image.png

                                        ee01498c-4acd-473f-8e7c-0f63efa6c30d-image.png

                                        e4d19aff-0057-43ef-941d-1912f7d707bd-image.png

                                        4c2e2c92-9411-4085-9a8a-bc22e73f2c51-image.png

                                        e663a271-923f-41c6-9096-448af5c01331-image.png

                                        Enrico FischerE Offline
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                                        Enrico Fischer
                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                        #514

                                        @bostil sehr schön geworden.

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                                        • D3ltoroxpD Offline
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                                          D3ltoroxp
                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #515

                                          Ich bräuchte mal bißchen Ideen und Anregungen für eine Seite, mit Rollosteuerung und Fensterüberwachung, wer mag kann mir ja mal seine Variante zeigen. Das wäre super, bin total unschlüssig und hab noch kein richtiges Konzept. Ständig wirds geändert.

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