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Simple Steuerung true/false offen/geschlossen

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  • AphofisA Aphofis

    @mickym also so korrekt !?

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    Screenshot 2025-03-04 194113.pngScreenshot 2025-03-04 194237.png

    Ich denke das hab ich jetzt verstanden

    mickymM Offline
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    mickym
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    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #33

    @aphofis Ja - so würde es funktionieren, wenn Du mit der iobroker In Node es in eine andere Eigenschaft (also fenster_wz) einliest.

    Aber in der Regel wirst Du ja alles bei payload belassen. - Aber es geht ja darum dass Du das Prinzip mit den Nachrichteneigenschaften verstehst.

    Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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    • mickymM mickym

      @aphofis Ja - so würde es funktionieren, wenn Du mit der iobroker In Node es in eine andere Eigenschaft (also fenster_wz) einliest.

      Aber in der Regel wirst Du ja alles bei payload belassen. - Aber es geht ja darum dass Du das Prinzip mit den Nachrichteneigenschaften verstehst.

      AphofisA Offline
      AphofisA Offline
      Aphofis
      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
      #34

      @mickym genau und das denke ich habe ich verstanden

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      • AphofisA Aphofis

        @mickym genau und das denke ich habe ich verstanden

        AphofisA Offline
        AphofisA Offline
        Aphofis
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #35

        nur was ich noch nicht verstehe, das die anderen sensoren in der node ein anderes attribute haben aber in deren zustand trotzdem innerhalb der node der wert aus alexa2/0/History/answerText eingetragen wird also fenster sensor wz wurde geschlossen zb normal sollen die ja gar nicht darauf reagieren. hmmm

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        • AphofisA Aphofis

          nur was ich noch nicht verstehe, das die anderen sensoren in der node ein anderes attribute haben aber in deren zustand trotzdem innerhalb der node der wert aus alexa2/0/History/answerText eingetragen wird also fenster sensor wz wurde geschlossen zb normal sollen die ja gar nicht darauf reagieren. hmmm

          mickymM Offline
          mickymM Offline
          mickym
          Most Active
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
          #36

          @aphofis sagte in Simple Steuerung true/false offen/geschlossen:

          nur was ich noch nicht verstehe, das die anderen sensoren in der node ein anderes attribute haben aber in deren zustand trotzdem innerhalb der node der wert aus alexa2/0/History/answerText eingetragen wird also fenster sensor wz wurde geschlossen zb normal sollen die ja gar nicht darauf reagieren. hmmm

          Und ich habe diesen Satz überhaupt nicht verstanden - vielleicht kannst Du ihn nochmal anders erklären.

          Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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          • mickymM mickym

            @aphofis sagte in Simple Steuerung true/false offen/geschlossen:

            nur was ich noch nicht verstehe, das die anderen sensoren in der node ein anderes attribute haben aber in deren zustand trotzdem innerhalb der node der wert aus alexa2/0/History/answerText eingetragen wird also fenster sensor wz wurde geschlossen zb normal sollen die ja gar nicht darauf reagieren. hmmm

            Und ich habe diesen Satz überhaupt nicht verstanden - vielleicht kannst Du ihn nochmal anders erklären.

            mickymM Offline
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            mickym
            Most Active
            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von mickym
            #37

            @mickym Was sind denn andere Sensoren in der Node? und wieso haben die ein anderes Attribut?

            Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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            • AphofisA Aphofis

              nur was ich noch nicht verstehe, das die anderen sensoren in der node ein anderes attribute haben aber in deren zustand trotzdem innerhalb der node der wert aus alexa2/0/History/answerText eingetragen wird also fenster sensor wz wurde geschlossen zb normal sollen die ja gar nicht darauf reagieren. hmmm

              AphofisA Offline
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              Aphofis
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #38

              also ich muss mich erstmal abmelden. muss noch duschen !
              habe heute wieder etwas gelernt.
              Muss nur noch paar schaltpläne welzen muss morgen zwei schiebetüren an GLT, EMA und BMA aufschalten und da muss ich mich noch etwas belesen. Ist zwar simpler kram ist aber von den sensor befestigungen von anlagen typ zu anlagen typ unterschiedlich.
              Danke dir schon mal und man könnte ja morgen weiter machen.

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              • AphofisA Aphofis

                also ich muss mich erstmal abmelden. muss noch duschen !
                habe heute wieder etwas gelernt.
                Muss nur noch paar schaltpläne welzen muss morgen zwei schiebetüren an GLT, EMA und BMA aufschalten und da muss ich mich noch etwas belesen. Ist zwar simpler kram ist aber von den sensor befestigungen von anlagen typ zu anlagen typ unterschiedlich.
                Danke dir schon mal und man könnte ja morgen weiter machen.

                AphofisA Offline
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                Aphofis
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Aphofis
                #39

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                • AphofisA Aphofis

                  das wären die anderen:
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                  mickymM Offline
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                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #40

                  @aphofis Du liest 4 mal den gleichen Datenpunkt aus. Das kann man so machen, man kann das aber auch anders machen.

                  Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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                  • mickymM mickym

                    @aphofis Du liest 4 mal den gleichen Datenpunkt aus. Das kann man so machen, man kann das aber auch anders machen.

                    AphofisA Offline
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                    Aphofis
                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Aphofis
                    #41

                    @mickym
                    Wäre es so möglich !?
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                    mickymM 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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                    • AphofisA Aphofis

                      @mickym
                      Wäre es so möglich !?
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                      mickymM Offline
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                      mickym
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                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von mickym
                      #42

                      @aphofis Im Prinzip schon - aber so halt nicht - schau halt mal in welches Attribut Du den Wert ausliest.
                      Wenn Du das nicht beantworten kannst, dann lass Dir halt wieder das ganze Nachrichtenpbjekt ausgeben.
                      Geh halt Schritt für Schritt vor.

                      Also in welches Attribut liest Du den Wert ein?

                      Außerdem verwirrst Du ja Dein Ziel schau halt was in den Debug Nodes rauskommt.

                      Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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                      • AphofisA Offline
                        AphofisA Offline
                        Aphofis
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Aphofis
                        #43

                        @mickym Achso Attribute ist ja nur fenster_kueche ne das ja etwas zu wenig.
                        wie mache ich das denn das alle attribute gelesen und weiter gegeben werden

                        Kann man das so machen !? fehlt aber anscheinend etwas attribute wird irgendwo nicht weiter verarbeitet.
                        Screenshot 2025-03-06 172645.png

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                        mickymM 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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                        • AphofisA Aphofis

                          @mickym Achso Attribute ist ja nur fenster_kueche ne das ja etwas zu wenig.
                          wie mache ich das denn das alle attribute gelesen und weiter gegeben werden

                          Kann man das so machen !? fehlt aber anscheinend etwas attribute wird irgendwo nicht weiter verarbeitet.
                          Screenshot 2025-03-06 172645.png

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                          mickymM Offline
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                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #44

                          @aphofis Wenn Du alles bei payload belassen hättest, dann hättest Du doch vorerst kein Problem - allerdings schau Dir halt mal an, was in den Debugnodes rauskommt - ich glaube nicht, dass da nur true/false rauskommt.

                          Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

                          AphofisA 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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                          • mickymM mickym

                            @aphofis Wenn Du alles bei payload belassen hättest, dann hättest Du doch vorerst kein Problem - allerdings schau Dir halt mal an, was in den Debugnodes rauskommt - ich glaube nicht, dass da nur true/false rauskommt.

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                            Aphofis
                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #45

                            @mickym Irgendwie klappt das nicht!
                            alle geräte sollen ja nur true/false melden und nicht alle auf alles reagieren und Fenster Bad ist ein Sonoff Gerät das muss auf 0/1 reagieren
                            Screenshot 2025-03-07 165438.png

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                            mickymM 1 Antwort Letzte Antwort
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                            • AphofisA Aphofis

                              @mickym Irgendwie klappt das nicht!
                              alle geräte sollen ja nur true/false melden und nicht alle auf alles reagieren und Fenster Bad ist ein Sonoff Gerät das muss auf 0/1 reagieren
                              Screenshot 2025-03-07 165438.png

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                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                              #46

                              @aphofis ja wenn nicht jede Node auf alles reagieren soll, dann darfst du die Nachrichten nicht einfach vervielfältigen, sondern musst diese über Bedingungen an verschiedene Ausgänge einer Switch Node schicken

                              Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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                              • mickymM mickym

                                @aphofis ja wenn nicht jede Node auf alles reagieren soll, dann darfst du die Nachrichten nicht einfach vervielfältigen, sondern musst diese über Bedingungen an verschiedene Ausgänge einer Switch Node schicken

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                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #47

                                @mickym Wie erstelle ich denn diese bedingungen !?

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                                • AphofisA Aphofis

                                  @mickym Wie erstelle ich denn diese bedingungen !?

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                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von mickym
                                  #48

                                  @aphofis Na wie ich geschrieben habe. Mit einer switch Node. Oben steht die Eigenschaft, die Du überprüfen willst und dann definierst Du die Regeln - welcher Ausgang genommen wird.

                                  Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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                                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von Aphofis
                                    #49

                                    @mickym Ich tausche die Tuya Sensoren einfach gegen Sonoff Fenster Kontakte die reagieren in wenigen ms und sind zuverlässig. Es ist mir einfach zu kompliziert über eine alexa routine zu arbeiten.
                                    es sind einfach zu viele störfaktoren in der Geschichte.

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                                    • AphofisA Aphofis

                                      @mickym Ich tausche die Tuya Sensoren einfach gegen Sonoff Fenster Kontakte die reagieren in wenigen ms und sind zuverlässig. Es ist mir einfach zu kompliziert über eine alexa routine zu arbeiten.
                                      es sind einfach zu viele störfaktoren in der Geschichte.

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                                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                      #50

                                      @aphofis Ja mach wie Du denkst. Es geht nicht nur um das Ergebnis, sondern dass Du was gelernt hättest. Aber ich denke wir lassen das in Zukunft. Es gibt ja noch eine Menge anderer Leute, die Dir ggf. helfen können.

                                      Also viel Glück und Erfolg.

                                      Jeder Flow bzw. jedes Script, das ich hier poste implementiert jeder auf eigene Gefahr. Flows und Scripts können Fehler aufweisen und weder der Seitenbetreiber noch ich persönlich können hierfür haftbar gemacht werden. Das gleiche gilt für Empfehlungen aller Art.

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                                      • mickymM mickym

                                        @aphofis Ja mach wie Du denkst. Es geht nicht nur um das Ergebnis, sondern dass Du was gelernt hättest. Aber ich denke wir lassen das in Zukunft. Es gibt ja noch eine Menge anderer Leute, die Dir ggf. helfen können.

                                        Also viel Glück und Erfolg.

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                                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                        #51

                                        @mickym
                                        Ich verstehe manche dinge nicht!
                                        Ich würde es gerne umsetzen doch ich verliere manchmal den Faden um so komplexer es wird.
                                        Hat jetzt nix mit dieser steuerung zu Tun! Es hat nur keinen sinn eine Steuerung weiter zu bilden, wenn die aktoren nicht korrekt reagieren und macht dann auch keinen spaß. Hatte mir einen Fenster Tür Kontakt von Sonoff gekauft und die reagieren sehr schnell. man kann die schaltung damit weiter führen.

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