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Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter

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  • P PPB1308

    @homoran said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

    @ppb1308 sagte in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

    system.adapter.web.0 : web : briioBrProx - enabled, port: 8082, bind: 192.168.8.220, run as: admin

    wer ist .220?

    .220 ist der ioBroker lxc.

    Thomas BraunT Online
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    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    @ppb1308

    ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-map/
    

    sagt?

    Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
    https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
    NodeJS Fixer Skript:
    https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
    iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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      @thomas-braun said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

      ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-map/

      
      peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$ ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-map/
      total 116K
      drwxrwxr-x+    5 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 .
      drwxrwxr-x+ 1215 iobroker iobroker  68K May 31 09:31 ..
      -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 2.6K May 31 09:31 LICENSE
      -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 2.2K May 31 09:31 README.md
      drwxrwxr-x+    3 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 admin
      drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 img
      -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 9.1K May 31 09:31 io-package.json
      -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker    1 May 31 09:31 iob_npm.done
      -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 1.2K May 31 09:31 package.json
      drwxrwxr-x+    3 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 widgets
      peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$ 
      
      
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      • HomoranH Homoran

        @ppb1308 wieso ist nur der freigegeben?
        hast du da den port 8082 gemappt?

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        wrote on last edited by
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        @homoran

        ja
        9282223c-b799-4480-8931-e3466b0823f4-image.png

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        • P PPB1308

          @thomas-braun said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

          ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-map/

          
          peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$ ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-map/
          total 116K
          drwxrwxr-x+    5 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 .
          drwxrwxr-x+ 1215 iobroker iobroker  68K May 31 09:31 ..
          -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 2.6K May 31 09:31 LICENSE
          -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 2.2K May 31 09:31 README.md
          drwxrwxr-x+    3 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 admin
          drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 img
          -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 9.1K May 31 09:31 io-package.json
          -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker    1 May 31 09:31 iob_npm.done
          -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 1.2K May 31 09:31 package.json
          drwxrwxr-x+    3 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 09:31 widgets
          peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$ 
          
          
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          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @ppb1308 dann versuch es erst mal mit iob upload all

          kein Support per PN! - Fragen im Forum stellen - es gibt fast nichts, was nicht auch für andere interessant ist.

          Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

          der Installationsfixer: curl -fsL https://iobroker.net/fix.sh | bash -

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          • HomoranH Homoran

            @ppb1308 dann versuch es erst mal mit iob upload all

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            wrote on last edited by
            #11

            @homoran said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

            @ppb1308 dann versuch es erst mal mit iob upload all

            ok, das hat nun fast alles upgedatet, aber das eine Vis Widget bleibt ohne Update und zeigt immer noch die Meldung im Debug "INFO: Directory "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/www" was not found! Nothing was uploaded or deleted.":

            d8d1b523-1d01-4d2c-b61d-fbe4ce2e4dde-image.png

            das Log zum Update Versuch:

            $ iobroker upgrade vis-justgage@2.1.7 --debug
            
            Update vis-justgage from @1.0.2 to @2.1.7
            
            NPM version: 10.7.0
            
            Installing iobroker.vis-justgage@2.1.7... (System call)
            
            npm warn ERESOLVE overriding peer dependencynpm warn While resolving: @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn Found: @iobroker/types@6.0.0npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/typesnpm warn @iobroker/types@"6.0.0" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.adminnpm warn iobroker.admin@"6.17.14" from the root projectnpm warnnpm warn Could not resolve dependency:npm warn peer @iobroker/types@"^5.0.11" from @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/adapter-corenpm warn @iobroker/adapter-core@"^3.1.4" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.adminnpm warnnpm warn Conflicting peer dependency: @iobroker/types@5.0.19npm warn node_modules/@iobroker/typesnpm warn peer @iobroker/types@"^5.0.11" from @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/adapter-corenpm warn @iobroker/adapter-core@"^3.1.4" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin
            
            npm warn deprecated left-pad@1.3.0: use String.prototype.padStart()
            
            npm warn deprecated w3c-hr-time@1.0.2: Use your platform's native performance.now() and performance.timeOrigin.
            
            npm warn deprecated debug@4.1.1: Debug versions >=3.2.0 <3.2.7 || >=4 <4.3.1 have a low-severity ReDos regression when used in a Node.js environment. It is recommended you upgrade to 3.2.7 or 4.3.1. (https://github.com/visionmedia/debug/issues/797)
            
            npm warn deprecated uuid@3.4.0: Please upgrade to version 7 or higher. Older versions may use Math.random() in certain circumstances, which is known to be problematic. See https://v8.dev/blog/math-random for details.
            
            removed 2 packages, and changed 1 package in 11s
            
            INFO: Directory "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/www" was not found! Nothing was uploaded or deleted.
            
            Adapter "system.adapter.vis.0" restarted.
            
            Adapter "system.adapter.vis-2.0" restarted.
            
            Update "system.adapter.vis-justgage.0"
            
            upload [2] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/index.html index.html text/html
            
            upload [1] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/index_m.html index_m.html text/html
            
            upload [0] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/justgage.png justgage.png image/png
            
            Process exited with code 0
            

            Das Verzeichnis gibts auch nicht:

            peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$ ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage
            total 124K
            drwxrwxr-x+    5 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 .
            drwxrwxr-x+ 1215 iobroker iobroker  68K May 31 10:54 ..
            -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 1.2K May 31 10:54 LICENSE
            -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 5.9K May 31 10:54 README.md
            drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 admin
            drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 img
            -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker  14K May 31 10:54 io-package.json
            -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker    1 May 31 10:54 iob_npm.done
            -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 2.5K May 31 10:54 package.json
            drwxrwxr-x+    3 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 widgets
            peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$
            
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            • P PPB1308

              @homoran said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

              @ppb1308 dann versuch es erst mal mit iob upload all

              ok, das hat nun fast alles upgedatet, aber das eine Vis Widget bleibt ohne Update und zeigt immer noch die Meldung im Debug "INFO: Directory "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/www" was not found! Nothing was uploaded or deleted.":

              d8d1b523-1d01-4d2c-b61d-fbe4ce2e4dde-image.png

              das Log zum Update Versuch:

              $ iobroker upgrade vis-justgage@2.1.7 --debug
              
              Update vis-justgage from @1.0.2 to @2.1.7
              
              NPM version: 10.7.0
              
              Installing iobroker.vis-justgage@2.1.7... (System call)
              
              npm warn ERESOLVE overriding peer dependencynpm warn While resolving: @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn Found: @iobroker/types@6.0.0npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/typesnpm warn @iobroker/types@"6.0.0" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.adminnpm warn iobroker.admin@"6.17.14" from the root projectnpm warnnpm warn Could not resolve dependency:npm warn peer @iobroker/types@"^5.0.11" from @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/adapter-corenpm warn @iobroker/adapter-core@"^3.1.4" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.adminnpm warnnpm warn Conflicting peer dependency: @iobroker/types@5.0.19npm warn node_modules/@iobroker/typesnpm warn peer @iobroker/types@"^5.0.11" from @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/adapter-corenpm warn @iobroker/adapter-core@"^3.1.4" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin
              
              npm warn deprecated left-pad@1.3.0: use String.prototype.padStart()
              
              npm warn deprecated w3c-hr-time@1.0.2: Use your platform's native performance.now() and performance.timeOrigin.
              
              npm warn deprecated debug@4.1.1: Debug versions >=3.2.0 <3.2.7 || >=4 <4.3.1 have a low-severity ReDos regression when used in a Node.js environment. It is recommended you upgrade to 3.2.7 or 4.3.1. (https://github.com/visionmedia/debug/issues/797)
              
              npm warn deprecated uuid@3.4.0: Please upgrade to version 7 or higher. Older versions may use Math.random() in certain circumstances, which is known to be problematic. See https://v8.dev/blog/math-random for details.
              
              removed 2 packages, and changed 1 package in 11s
              
              INFO: Directory "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/www" was not found! Nothing was uploaded or deleted.
              
              Adapter "system.adapter.vis.0" restarted.
              
              Adapter "system.adapter.vis-2.0" restarted.
              
              Update "system.adapter.vis-justgage.0"
              
              upload [2] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/index.html index.html text/html
              
              upload [1] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/index_m.html index_m.html text/html
              
              upload [0] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/justgage.png justgage.png image/png
              
              Process exited with code 0
              

              Das Verzeichnis gibts auch nicht:

              peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$ ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage
              total 124K
              drwxrwxr-x+    5 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 .
              drwxrwxr-x+ 1215 iobroker iobroker  68K May 31 10:54 ..
              -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 1.2K May 31 10:54 LICENSE
              -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 5.9K May 31 10:54 README.md
              drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 admin
              drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 img
              -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker  14K May 31 10:54 io-package.json
              -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker    1 May 31 10:54 iob_npm.done
              -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 2.5K May 31 10:54 package.json
              drwxrwxr-x+    3 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 widgets
              peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$
              
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              wrote on last edited by
              #12

              @ppb1308 sagte in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

              @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4

              wR das die defekte Version?

              kein Support per PN! - Fragen im Forum stellen - es gibt fast nichts, was nicht auch für andere interessant ist.

              Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

              der Installationsfixer: curl -fsL https://iobroker.net/fix.sh | bash -

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              • P PPB1308

                @homoran said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                @ppb1308 dann versuch es erst mal mit iob upload all

                ok, das hat nun fast alles upgedatet, aber das eine Vis Widget bleibt ohne Update und zeigt immer noch die Meldung im Debug "INFO: Directory "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/www" was not found! Nothing was uploaded or deleted.":

                d8d1b523-1d01-4d2c-b61d-fbe4ce2e4dde-image.png

                das Log zum Update Versuch:

                $ iobroker upgrade vis-justgage@2.1.7 --debug
                
                Update vis-justgage from @1.0.2 to @2.1.7
                
                NPM version: 10.7.0
                
                Installing iobroker.vis-justgage@2.1.7... (System call)
                
                npm warn ERESOLVE overriding peer dependencynpm warn While resolving: @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn Found: @iobroker/types@6.0.0npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/typesnpm warn @iobroker/types@"6.0.0" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.adminnpm warn iobroker.admin@"6.17.14" from the root projectnpm warnnpm warn Could not resolve dependency:npm warn peer @iobroker/types@"^5.0.11" from @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/adapter-corenpm warn @iobroker/adapter-core@"^3.1.4" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.adminnpm warnnpm warn Conflicting peer dependency: @iobroker/types@5.0.19npm warn node_modules/@iobroker/typesnpm warn peer @iobroker/types@"^5.0.11" from @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin/node_modules/@iobroker/adapter-corenpm warn @iobroker/adapter-core@"^3.1.4" from iobroker.admin@6.17.14npm warn node_modules/iobroker.admin
                
                npm warn deprecated left-pad@1.3.0: use String.prototype.padStart()
                
                npm warn deprecated w3c-hr-time@1.0.2: Use your platform's native performance.now() and performance.timeOrigin.
                
                npm warn deprecated debug@4.1.1: Debug versions >=3.2.0 <3.2.7 || >=4 <4.3.1 have a low-severity ReDos regression when used in a Node.js environment. It is recommended you upgrade to 3.2.7 or 4.3.1. (https://github.com/visionmedia/debug/issues/797)
                
                npm warn deprecated uuid@3.4.0: Please upgrade to version 7 or higher. Older versions may use Math.random() in certain circumstances, which is known to be problematic. See https://v8.dev/blog/math-random for details.
                
                removed 2 packages, and changed 1 package in 11s
                
                INFO: Directory "/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/www" was not found! Nothing was uploaded or deleted.
                
                Adapter "system.adapter.vis.0" restarted.
                
                Adapter "system.adapter.vis-2.0" restarted.
                
                Update "system.adapter.vis-justgage.0"
                
                upload [2] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/index.html index.html text/html
                
                upload [1] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/index_m.html index_m.html text/html
                
                upload [0] vis-justgage.admin /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage/admin/justgage.png justgage.png image/png
                
                Process exited with code 0
                

                Das Verzeichnis gibts auch nicht:

                peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$ ls -lah /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.vis-justgage
                total 124K
                drwxrwxr-x+    5 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 .
                drwxrwxr-x+ 1215 iobroker iobroker  68K May 31 10:54 ..
                -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 1.2K May 31 10:54 LICENSE
                -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 5.9K May 31 10:54 README.md
                drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 admin
                drwxrwxr-x+    2 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 img
                -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker  14K May 31 10:54 io-package.json
                -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker    1 May 31 10:54 iob_npm.done
                -rw-rw-r--+    1 iobroker iobroker 2.5K May 31 10:54 package.json
                drwxrwxr-x+    3 iobroker iobroker 4.0K May 31 10:54 widgets
                peter@briioBrProx:/opt/iobroker$
                
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                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                Update scheint aber nun geklappt zu haben, das Widget wird nicht mehr als ncht aktuell gelistet.

                Hm, sehr merkwürdig.

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                • HomoranH Homoran

                  @ppb1308 sagte in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                  @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4

                  wR das die defekte Version?

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                  wrote on last edited by PPB1308
                  #14

                  @homoran said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                  @ppb1308 sagte in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                  @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4

                  wR das die defekte Version?

                  Hm, kann ich nicht sagen, den Core Adapter hab ich gar nicht im Visier gehabt, nur die Vis Widgets, die sich nicht updaten ließen.
                  Das scheint ja nach dem update all wohl behoben.

                  Muss ich mir um das vermeintlich fehlende Verzeichnis Sorgen machen?

                  Danke für die Hilfe!

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                  • P PPB1308

                    @homoran said in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                    @ppb1308 sagte in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                    @iobroker/adapter-core@3.1.4

                    wR das die defekte Version?

                    Hm, kann ich nicht sagen, den Core Adapter hab ich gar nicht im Visier gehabt, nur die Vis Widgets, die sich nicht updaten ließen.
                    Das scheint ja nach dem update all wohl behoben.

                    Muss ich mir um das vermeintlich fehlende Verzeichnis Sorgen machen?

                    Danke für die Hilfe!

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                    Global Moderator Administrators
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    @ppb1308 sagte in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                    den Core Adapter

                    das ist kein Adapter, aber die defekte Version war es anscheinend nicht

                    Vielleicht weiss @Thomas-Braun das noch besser

                    kein Support per PN! - Fragen im Forum stellen - es gibt fast nichts, was nicht auch für andere interessant ist.

                    Benutzt das Voting rechts unten im Beitrag wenn er euch geholfen hat.

                    der Installationsfixer: curl -fsL https://iobroker.net/fix.sh | bash -

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                    • HomoranH Homoran

                      @ppb1308 sagte in Dieser Adapter benötigt den vis- oder vis-2-Adapter:

                      den Core Adapter

                      das ist kein Adapter, aber die defekte Version war es anscheinend nicht

                      Vielleicht weiss @Thomas-Braun das noch besser

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #16

                      @homoran @PPB1308

                      Keine Ahnung.
                      Aber bring alle Adapter auf Stand oder geh auf das Stable-Repository.

                      Linux-Werkzeugkasten:
                      https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/42952/der-kleine-iobroker-linux-werkzeugkasten
                      NodeJS Fixer Skript:
                      https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/68035/iob-node-fix-skript
                      iob_diag: curl -sLf -o diag.sh https://iobroker.net/diag.sh && bash diag.sh

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                      • Thomas BraunT Thomas Braun

                        @homoran @PPB1308

                        Keine Ahnung.
                        Aber bring alle Adapter auf Stand oder geh auf das Stable-Repository.

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                        @thomas-braun
                        ja, hab ich ja jetzt gemacht.
                        Danke.

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                          Sodala

                          adapter-core 3.1.4 ist die aktuellste und empfohlene Version

                          vis-justgage hat kein www Verzeichnis. Keine Ahnung woher die Fehlermeldung kommt. vis-justgage ist m.W. nach nicht mit vis-2 kompatibel

                          vis-map gibt diese Meldung via admin news aus. Die Funktion ist durch diese Meldung in keiner Weise beeinflusst. Wenn das Widget funktioniert sollte also alles OK sein. Bitte eröffne ggF ein Issue im adapter repo.

                          Entwicklung u Betreuung: envertech-pv, hoymiles-ms, ns-client, pid, snmp Adapter;
                          Support Repositoryverwaltung.

                          Wer Danke sagen will, kann nen Kaffee spendieren: https://paypal.me/mcm1957atiobroker

                          LESEN - gute Forenbeitrage

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