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Stephan1966

Habe gerade ein Video gesehen, es handelt zwar
vom Home Assistant aber das Skript darin gefällt mir persönlich sehr gut! Ein Blockly davon oder so ähnlich fände ich nicht schlecht 😉

Hier der Link dazu:
https://youtu.be/WuAtSwXkk1Y

Homoran

@stephan1966 dann such mal nach Lüftungsskript das gibt es bereits seit Jahren

mrhary

@stephan1966
https://loxwiki.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LOX/pages/1518403635/Absolute+Luftfeuchtigkeit+berechnen

Anbei mein Blockly:

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klassisch

Ich nutze ESP8266, welche die Raumtemp, Raumfeuchte und die Wandtemperatur an der kritischen Stelle messen. https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/47513/esphome-wandfeuchte-messen-schimmel-vermeiden-anwendungen/2?page=1
Die rechnen dann die Feuchte an der Wandoberfläche und die erforderlichen Wandtemperaturen, um 70%, 80% oder 90% Feuchte an der Wandoberfläche zu erreichen.
Die Daten gehen entweder über den ESPHome Adapter oder MQTT ein.
Damit kann man dann Lüftungen bzw. Entfeuchtungen steuern.
Ich habe eine Stelle, bei der Lüften nicht reicht. Da steuere ich dann den Entfeuchter basierend au diesen Werten.

bloop

Hallo,
Schau mal hier:
Lüftungsempfehlung

Hab mich an diese Anleitung gehalten. Läuft seit einem Jahr Problemlos.
Skript

Stephan1966

@homoran
Vielen Dank, das schaue ich mir mal an!

Stephan1966

@mrhary
Vielen Dank, das schaue ich mir mal an!

Stephan1966

@klassisch
Vielen Dank, das schaue ich mir mal an!

Stephan1966

@bloop
Vielen Dank, das schaue ich mir mal an!

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