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    • keksn
      keksn @keksn last edited by Homoran

      @keksn

      Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
      permitted by applicable law.
      Last login: Sun Apr  9 07:56:27 CEST 2023 on tty1
      keksn@iobroker:~$ which influx
      /usr/bin/influx
      keksn@iobroker:~$ cd ~
      apt policy influx*
      influxdb2-cli:
        Installed: 2.7.1-2
        Candidate: 2.7.1-2
        Version table:
       *** 2.7.1-2 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
              100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
           2.6.1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.6.0 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.5.0 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.4.0 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.3.0 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
      influxdb-client:
        Installed: (none)
        Candidate: 1.6.7~rc0-1+b5
        Version table:
           1.6.7~rc0-1+b5 500
              500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages
      influxdb-dev:
        Installed: (none)
        Candidate: (none)
        Version table:
      influxdb2-client:
        Installed: (none)
        Candidate: 2.7.1-1
        Version table:
           2.7.1-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
      influxdb:
        Installed: (none)
        Candidate: 1.8.10-1
        Version table:
           1.8.10-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
              100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
           1.6.7~rc0-1+b5 500
              500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 Packages
      influxdb2:
        Installed: 2.7.0-1
        Candidate: 2.7.0-1
        Version table:
       *** 2.7.0-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
              100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
           2.6.1-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.6.0-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.5.1-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.4.0-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.3.0-1 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
           2.2.0 500
              500 https://repos.influxdata.com/debian stable/main amd64 Packages
      
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      • simatec
        simatec Developer Most Active @keksn last edited by

        @keksn

        Steht doch im Log …

        401 Unauthorized
        

        https://github.com/simatec/ioBroker.backitup/wiki/Diverse-Anleitungen-für-ioBroker.backitup#token-für-influxdb-2x-backup-richtig-erstellen

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        • keksn
          keksn @simatec last edited by

          @simatec

          das habe ich alles schon mehrmals gemacht. Es hat ja auch schon funktioniert. Ich habe aber jetzt erst gesehen das das letzte Backup am 17.02 erstellt wurde.

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          • simatec
            simatec Developer Most Active @keksn last edited by

            @keksn
            Dann musst du es nochmal nach dieser Anleitung machen.
            Dein Token ist nicht für ein Backup gültig.

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            • keksn
              keksn @simatec last edited by

              @simatec

              Operator token steht bei mir da nirgends. Ich habe den obersten in der Liste genommen. jetzt kommt das

              	2023-04-09 11:17:45.061	error	[iobroker] Error: Command failed: "/usr/bin/influx" backup --bucket iobroker -t MJ-dVc5yNCpLtCN22GP_mrXrbJQR3mZxhy9bAOMUnzFGL2xs5T3FwZJxFG2P_QNZvlNYzV6RVd3pvZkFJ7koow==" "/opt/iobroker/backups/influxDB_2023_04_09-11_17_45_backupiobroker" /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
              
              backitup.0
              2023-04-09 11:17:45.061	error	[iobroker/influxDB] /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
              
              backitup.0
              2023-04-09 11:17:45.061	error	[iobroker/influxDB] Error: Command failed: "/usr/bin/influx" backup --bucket iobroker -t MJ-dVc5yNCpLtCN22GP_mrXrbJQR3mZxhy9bAOMUnzFGL2xs5T3FwZJxFG2P_QNZvlNYzV6RVd3pvZkFJ7koow==" "/opt/iobroker/backups/influxDB_2023_04_09-11_17_45_backupiobroker"
              
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              • keksn
                keksn @simatec last edited by

                @simatec

                wenn ich in der Konsole eingebe

                influx backup --bucket iobroker --host http://192.168.1.166:8086 -t jDzlHe-luNvFjk_8XXDUoDfyLMt9MSQuVflszTB53x2g-JQkOAmP7B1JGpjW__7sZaXeBRACUyKs95uP-K7QWQ== "/tmp/influx-test"   
                

                kommt das

                keksn@iobroker:~$ influx backup --bucket iobroker --host http://192.168.1.166:8086 -t jDzlHe-luNvFjk_8XXDUoDfyLMt9MSQuVflszTB53x2g-JQkOAmP7B1JGpjW__7sZaXeBRACUyKs95uP-K7QWQ== "/tmp/influx-test"   
                2023/04/09 11:22:39 INFO: Downloading metadata snapshot
                Error: failed to backup metadata: failed to download metadata snapshot: 401 Unauthorized: read:authorizations is unauthorized
                keksn@iobroker:~$ 
                
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                • keksn
                  keksn @simatec last edited by

                  @simatec

                  das ist der Token lt Abfrage

                  keksn@iobroker:~$ influx auth list -t jDzlHe-luNvFjk_8XXDUoDfyLMt9MSQuVflszTB53x2g-JQkOAmP7B1JGpjW__7sZaXeBRACUyKs95uP-K7QWQ== --json
                  [
                          {
                                  "id": "0b046c7cd2da7000",
                                  "description": "admin",
                                  "token": "MJ-dVc5yNCpLtCN22GP_mrXrbJQR3mZxhy9bAOMUnzFGL2xs5T3FwZJxFG2P_QNZvlNYzV6RVd3pvZkFJ7koow==",
                                  "status": "active",
                                  "userName": "admin",
                                  "userID": "0b03f56869ede000",
                                  "permissions": [
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/buckets",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/buckets",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/checks",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/checks",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dashboards",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dashboards",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dbrp",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dbrp",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/documents",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/documents",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/labels",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/labels",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notebooks",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notebooks",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationEndpoints",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationEndpoints",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationRules",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationRules",
                                          "read:/orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/remotes",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/remotes",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/replications",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/replications",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/scrapers",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/scrapers",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/secrets",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/secrets",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/sources",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/sources",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/tasks",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/tasks",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/telegrafs",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/telegrafs",
                                          "read:/users/0b03f56869ede000",
                                          "write:/users/0b03f56869ede000",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/variables",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/variables",
                                          "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/views",
                                          "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/views"
                                  ]
                  
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                  • simatec
                    simatec Developer Most Active @keksn last edited by

                    @keksn

                    Das ist aber ein anderer Token in deinen Einstellungen von Backitup.
                    Des Weiteren hast du in den Einstellungen von Backitup ein Anführungszeichen am Ende des Token drin, was sicher durch copy & paste dort reinkam.

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                    • keksn
                      keksn @simatec last edited by

                      @simatec sorry nochmal mit dem ersten toke ohne """

                      ackitup.0
                      2023-04-09 11:40:58.513	error	[iobroker] Error: Command failed: "/usr/bin/influx" backup --bucket iobroker -t MJ-dVc5yNCpLtCN22GP_mrXrbJQR3mZxhy9bAOMUnzFGL2xs5T3FwZJxFG2P_QNZvlNYzV6RVd3pvZkFJ7koow== "/opt/iobroker/backups/influxDB_2023_04_09-11_40_58_backupiobroker" 2023/04/09 11:40:58 INFO: Downloading metadata snapshot Error: failed to backup metadata: failed to download metadata snapshot: 401 Unauthorized: read:authorizations is unauthorized
                      
                      backitup.0
                      2023-04-09 11:40:58.513	error	[iobroker/influxDB] Error: failed to backup metadata: failed to download metadata snapshot: 401 Unauthorized: read:authorizations is unauthorized
                      
                      backitup.0
                      2023-04-09 11:40:58.513	error	[iobroker/influxDB] 2023/04/09 11:40:58 INFO: Downloading metadata snapshot
                      
                      backitup.0
                      2023-04-09 11:40:58.512	error	[iobroker/influxDB] Error: Command failed: "/usr/bin/influx" backup --bucket iobroker -t MJ-dVc5yNCpLtCN22GP_mrXrbJQR3mZxhy9bAOMUnzFGL2xs5T3FwZJxFG2P_QNZvlNYzV6RVd3pvZkFJ7koow== "/opt/iobroker/backups/influxDB_2023_04_09-11_40_58_backupiobroker"
                      
                      "id": "0b046c7cd2da7000",
                                      "description": "admin",
                                      "token": "MJ-dVc5yNCpLtCN22GP_mrXrbJQR3mZxhy9bAOMUnzFGL2xs5T3FwZJxFG2P_QNZvlNYzV6RVd3pvZkFJ7koow==",
                                      "status": "active",
                                      "userName": "admin",
                                      "userID": "0b03f56869ede000",
                                      "permissions": [
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/buckets",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/buckets",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/checks",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/checks",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dashboards",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dashboards",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dbrp",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dbrp",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/documents",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/documents",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/labels",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/labels",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notebooks",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notebooks",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationEndpoints",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationEndpoints",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationRules",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationRules",
                                              "read:/orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/remotes",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/remotes",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/replications",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/replications",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/scrapers",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/scrapers",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/secrets",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/secrets",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/sources",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/sources",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/tasks",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/tasks",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/telegrafs",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/telegrafs",
                                              "read:/users/0b03f56869ede000",
                                              "write:/users/0b03f56869ede000",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/variables",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/variables",
                                              "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/views",
                                              "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/views"
                                      ]
                      
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                      • keksn
                        keksn @simatec last edited by

                        @simatec

                        keksn@iobroker:~$ influx backup --bucket iobroker --host http://192.168.1.166:8086 -t MJ-dVc5yNCpLtCN22GP_mrXrbJQR3mZxhy9bAOMUnzFGL2xs5T3FwZJxFG2P_QNZvlNYzV6RVd3pvZkFJ7koow== "/tmp/influx-test"
                        2023/04/09 11:46:50 INFO: Downloading metadata snapshot
                        Error: failed to backup metadata: failed to download metadata snapshot: 401 Unauthorized: read:authorizations is unauthorized
                        
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                        • simatec
                          simatec Developer Most Active @keksn last edited by

                          @keksn Gehe die Anleitung nochmal Schritt für Schritt durch und erstelle einen neuen Operator Token

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                          • keksn
                            keksn @simatec last edited by

                            @simatec

                            zum verzweifeln...

                            keksn@iobroker:~$ influx auth list -t LpT1OUMTk3MNKV9fCwE7gfFHzu5CPr6dQI2VtdJ-31aFgFszpYIiZwaTfioaZMbj5ddxFTZT3HKACx23QpMgVg== --json
                            [
                                    {
                                            "id": "0b055ae197aec000",
                                            "description": "iobroker_user_token",
                                            "token": "LpT1OUMTk3MNKV9fCwE7gfFHzu5CPr6dQI2VtdJ-31aFgFszpYIiZwaTfioaZMbj5ddxFTZT3HKACx23QpMgVg==",
                                            "status": "active",
                                            "userName": "admin",
                                            "userID": "0b03f56869ede000",
                                            "permissions": [
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/buckets",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/buckets",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/checks",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/checks",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dashboards",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dashboards",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dbrp",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/dbrp",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/documents",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/documents",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/labels",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/labels",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notebooks",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notebooks",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationEndpoints",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationEndpoints",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationRules",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/notificationRules",
                                                    "read:/orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/remotes",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/remotes",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/replications",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/replications",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/scrapers",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/scrapers",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/secrets",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/secrets",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/sources",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/sources",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/tasks",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/tasks",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/telegrafs",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/telegrafs",
                                                    "read:/users/0b03f56869ede000",
                                                    "write:/users/0b03f56869ede000",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/variables",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/variables",
                                                    "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/views",
                                                    "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/views"
                                            ]
                                    }t
                            
                            keksn@iobroker:~$ influx backup --bucket iobroker --host http://192.168.1.166:8086 -t LpT1OUMTk3MNKV9fCwE7gfFHzu5CPr6dQI2VtdJ-31aFgFszpYIiZwaTfioaZMbj5ddxFTZT3HKACx23QpMgVg== "/tmp/influx-test"
                            2023/04/09 12:03:23 INFO: Downloading metadata snapshot
                            Error: failed to backup metadata: failed to download metadata snapshot: 401 Unauthorized: read:authorizations is unauthorized
                            
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                            • keksn
                              keksn @simatec last edited by

                              @simatec Bildschirm­foto 2023-04-09 um 12.05.28.png

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                              • Marc Berg
                                Marc Berg Most Active @keksn last edited by Marc Berg

                                @keksn sagte in Backup Zugriffsproblem influxDB2.5:

                                influx auth list
                                [
                                        {
                                                "id": "0b055ae197aec000",
                                                "description": "iobroker_user_token",
                                                "token": "LpT1OUMTk3MNKV9fCwE7gfFHzu5CPr6dQI2VtdJ-31aFgFszpYIiZwaTfioaZMbj5ddxFTZT3HKACx23QpMgVg==",
                                                "status": "active",
                                                "userName": "admin",
                                                "userID": "0b03f56869ede000",
                                                "permissions": [
                                                        "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                                        "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/annotations",
                                                        "read:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                                        "write:orgs/0f2be3356ee1ee0a/authorizations",
                                

                                Das ist kein Operator Token! Den erkennst Du daran, dass in den Permissions kein "orgs" drin steht. Ein Operator Token hat Rechte auf ALLE Organisationen.

                                So in etwa:

                                "permissions": [
                                                        "read:/annotations",
                                                        "write:/annotations",
                                                        "read:/authorizations",
                                                        "write:/authorizations",
                                                        "read:/buckets",
                                                        "write:/buckets",
                                                        "read:/checks",
                                                        "write:/checks",
                                                        "read:/dashboards",
                                                        "write:/dashboards",
                                                        "read:/dbrp",
                                                        "write:/dbrp",
                                
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                                • Glasfaser
                                  Glasfaser @simatec last edited by Glasfaser

                                  @keksn

                                  @simatec sagte in Backup Zugriffsproblem influxDB2.5:
                                  @keksn Gehe die Anleitung nochmal Schritt für Schritt durch und erstelle einen neuen Operator Token

                                  Das ist nur ein User .. in deinem Log

                                  Hast du das gemacht ... :
                                  https://github.com/simatec/ioBroker.backitup/wiki/Diverse-Anleitungen-für-ioBroker.backitup#token-für-influxdb-2x-backup-richtig-erstellen

                                  schau auch hier mit mal nach :

                                  cat /etc/influxdb2/influx-configs
                                  
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                                    keksn @Marc Berg last edited by

                                    @marc-berg sagte in Backup Zugriffsproblem influxDB2.5:

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                                    danke, dann kann ich aber anscheinend keinen Operator token erstellen. Funkt nicht

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                                      keksn @Glasfaser last edited by

                                      @glasfaser

                                      die Anleitung habe ich nun schon einige Male durch.

                                      config Datei fine ich aber nicht

                                      keksn@iobroker:~$ cd /etc/influxdb2/influx-configs
                                      -bash: cd: /etc/influxdb2/influx-configs: No such file or directory
                                      
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                                        keksn @Glasfaser last edited by

                                        @glasfaser
                                        dürfte mir da irgendetwas zerschossen haben, da das Backup ja schon problemlos gelaufen ist

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                                          Glasfaser @keksn last edited by

                                          @keksn sagte in Backup Zugriffsproblem influxDB2.5:

                                          danke, dann kann ich aber anscheinend keinen Operator token erstellen.

                                          Funkt nicht

                                          und was heißt das für uns ...
                                          kannst du das mal alles zeigen !?

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                                            keksn @Glasfaser last edited by

                                            @glasfaser was meinst Du mit alles?

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