Shelly 2.5 - Schalter detektieren?

SuperElmi

Danke für die rege Beteiligung! :+1:
Meine Problemstellung ist weniger das aktivieren der Automatik, das kann man zeitlich machen, oder mit Sonnenaufgang, etc.
Ich hab bei den Objekten des Shelly-Adapters keines gefunden, das ein Betätigen das manuellen Schalters anzeigt. Im Prinzip müsste man das doch durch Vergleich verschiedener Zustände herausfinden können, oder? Z.B. durch Vergleich einer Soll- und einer Ist-Position...

harrym

@SuperElmi sagte in Shelly 2.5 - Schalter detektieren?:

Ich hab bei den Objekten des Shelly-Adapters keines gefunden, das ein Betätigen das manuellen Schalters anzeigt.

dann gugg dir mal den Datenpunkt Input unter Relay an ;)

harrym

@SuperElmi laut der API von Shelly (https://shelly-api-docs.shelly.cloud/#shelly-family-overview)

Bildschirmfoto vom 2020-08-28 17-02-01.png

mickym

@SuperElmi Nein nicht unter relay - aber unter input - ich nutze es zwar als schalter und nicht für rolläden und mit mqtt. Aber unter input siehst Du entweder unter 0 und 1 - das müsste bei Dir dann hoch oder runter sein - den aktuellen Status des Schalters (physisch) - der ist unabhängig von dem command - der Dir den Zustand des relays anzeigt. Also kannst Du auf Veränderungen beim input prüfen und siehst ob der Schalter manuell betätigt wurde oder nur ein Kommando den Schalter geschaltet hat.

OK hat @harrym alles schon geschrieben - dann ist es halt doppelt. Aber wichtiger wäre Dein Flow um Dir helfen zu können.

SuperElmi

Danke euch allen, mit diesen Hinweise komme ich sicher weiter! :call_me_hand:

Der Vollständigkeit halber hier noch mein Flow (ohne die Automatik abzuschalten):

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mickym

@SuperElmi Ich habe mir Deinen Flow gerade angeschaut. Da Du Deine Automatik eh über einen Datenpunkt steuerst, kannst Du ja zusätzlich zu Deiner AstroNode noch eine Logic davor bauen.

Du wirst ja wahrscheinlich Taster für die Rolladensteuerung haben - da wird der input nichts helfen, da der Taster ja immer in der gleichen Stellung verbleibt.

Aber Du hast in meinen Augen noch folgende Möglichkeiten die Schalterbetätigung zu ermitteln.

Entweder wertest Du longpush aus (0 oder 1) für langen Tastendruck oder nicht oder den input event.

{"event":"","event_cnt":0}

Der event ist "S" oder "L" je nach Länge des Tastendrucks und dahinter ist ein Zähler.

Im Prinzip kannst Du den Inhalt oder die Art der Tasterbetätigung ja ignorieren - da Du ja nur die Schalterbetätigung an sich brauchst, um die Automatik zu deaktivieren.

SuperElmi

@mickym Ich hab das Ganze jetzt so gelöst, sollte funktionieren:

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        "intervalCountMultiplier": 60000,
        "time": "sunrise",
        "timeType": "pdsTime",
        "offset": 0,
        "offsetType": "none",
        "offsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "timeEnd": "",
        "timeEndType": "entered",
        "timeEndOffset": 0,
        "timeEndOffsetType": "none",
        "timeEndOffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "timeDays": "*",
        "timeOnlyOddDays": false,
        "timeOnlyEvenDays": false,
        "timeMonths": "*",
        "timedatestart": "",
        "timedateend": "",
        "property": "",
        "propertyType": "none",
        "propertyCompare": "true",
        "propertyThreshold": "",
        "propertyThresholdType": "num",
        "timeAlt": "",
        "timeAltType": "entered",
        "timeAltDays": "*",
        "timeAltOnlyOddDays": false,
        "timeAltOnlyEvenDays": false,
        "timeAltMonths": "*",
        "timeAltOffset": 0,
        "timeAltOffsetType": "none",
        "timeAltOffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "once": false,
        "onceDelay": 0.1,
        "addPayload1": "payload",
        "addPayload1Type": "msg",
        "addPayload1Value": "true",
        "addPayload1ValueType": "bool",
        "addPayload1Format": "0",
        "addPayload1Offset": 0,
        "addPayload1OffsetType": "none",
        "addPayload1OffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "addPayload1Next": true,
        "addPayload1Days": "*",
        "addPayload2": "",
        "addPayload2Type": "none",
        "addPayload2Value": "",
        "addPayload2ValueType": "date",
        "addPayload2Format": "0",
        "addPayload2Offset": 0,
        "addPayload2OffsetType": "none",
        "addPayload2OffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "addPayload2Next": true,
        "addPayload2Days": "*",
        "addPayload3": "",
        "addPayload3Type": "none",
        "addPayload3Value": "",
        "addPayload3ValueType": "date",
        "addPayload3Format": "0",
        "addPayload3Offset": 0,
        "addPayload3OffsetType": "none",
        "addPayload3OffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "addPayload3Next": true,
        "addPayload3Days": "*",
        "recalcTime": 2,
        "x": 200,
        "y": 702,
        "wires": [
            [
                "a8e25d7b.096c9"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "a8e25d7b.096c9",
        "type": "ioBroker out",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Jalousie_Auto",
        "topic": "0_userdata.0.Jalousie_Auto",
        "ack": "false",
        "autoCreate": "false",
        "stateName": "",
        "role": "",
        "payloadType": "",
        "readonly": "",
        "stateUnit": "",
        "stateMin": "",
        "stateMax": "",
        "x": 740,
        "y": 700,
        "wires": []
    },
    {
        "id": "8c6cc358.c1ae2",
        "type": "comment",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Automatik einschalten täglich bei Sonnenaufgang",
        "info": "",
        "x": 300,
        "y": 660,
        "wires": []
    },
    {
        "id": "bd122212.63d968",
        "type": "trigger",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "",
        "op1": "false",
        "op2": "0",
        "op1type": "bool",
        "op2type": "str",
        "duration": "0",
        "extend": false,
        "units": "ms",
        "reset": "",
        "bytopic": "all",
        "topic": "topic",
        "outputs": 1,
        "x": 480,
        "y": 856,
        "wires": [
            [
                "a8e25d7b.096c9"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "123dcf3e.b406d9",
        "type": "ioBroker in",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Input / Detach Relay 0",
        "topic": "shelly.0.SHSW-25#E098068D287A#1.Relay0.Input",
        "payloadType": "value",
        "onlyack": "",
        "func": "all",
        "gap": "",
        "fireOnStart": "false",
        "x": 200,
        "y": 816,
        "wires": [
            [
                "bd122212.63d968"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "a5e4ca86.6d10d8",
        "type": "ioBroker in",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Input / Detach Relay 1",
        "topic": "shelly.0.SHSW-25#E098068D287A#1.Relay1.Input",
        "payloadType": "value",
        "onlyack": "",
        "func": "all",
        "gap": "",
        "fireOnStart": "false",
        "x": 200,
        "y": 876,
        "wires": [
            [
                "bd122212.63d968"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "2a35cade.2e905e",
        "type": "comment",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Automatik ausschalten bei Schalterbetätigung",
        "info": "",
        "x": 280,
        "y": 780,
        "wires": []
    },
    {
        "id": "c97591f4.be7838",
        "type": "position-config",
        "z": "",
        "name": "",
        "isValide": "true",
        "longitude": "0",
        "latitude": "0",
        "angleType": "deg",
        "timeZoneOffset": "99",
        "timeZoneDST": "0",
        "stateTimeFormat": "3",
        "stateDateFormat": "12"
    }
]

Ich werde über Erfahrungswerte berichten.
Danke euch allen!

Gruß
SuperElmi

mickym

@SuperElmi Meines Erachtens gibt es dann kein Auslösen. Du hättest das einfacher mit einem Change-Node - der einfach false sendet auch lösen können - weil mehr wird die trigger node nie machen und er wird NIE zurückgesetzt - was ggf. dann nach dem ersten Mal nicht mehr funktioniert. Also ich hätte einfach mit einem Change-Node - false an Deinen Datenpunkt gesetzt.

SuperElmi

@mickym Hm, hat eigentlich funktioniert, aber vielleicht hab ich nicht alle Fälle durchgetestet. Du meinst also eher so:

[
    {
        "id": "d30e5320.b8f5b8",
        "type": "time-inject",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "",
        "nameInt": "⏲ sunrise = true",
        "positionConfig": "c97591f4.be7838",
        "payload": "true",
        "payloadType": "bool",
        "payloadTimeFormat": 0,
        "payloadOffset": 0,
        "payloadOffsetType": "none",
        "payloadOffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "topic": "",
        "injectTypeSelect": "time",
        "intervalCount": 1,
        "intervalCountType": "num",
        "intervalCountMultiplier": 60000,
        "time": "sunrise",
        "timeType": "pdsTime",
        "offset": 0,
        "offsetType": "none",
        "offsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "timeEnd": "",
        "timeEndType": "entered",
        "timeEndOffset": 0,
        "timeEndOffsetType": "none",
        "timeEndOffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "timeDays": "*",
        "timeOnlyOddDays": false,
        "timeOnlyEvenDays": false,
        "timeMonths": "*",
        "timedatestart": "",
        "timedateend": "",
        "property": "",
        "propertyType": "none",
        "propertyCompare": "true",
        "propertyThreshold": "",
        "propertyThresholdType": "num",
        "timeAlt": "",
        "timeAltType": "entered",
        "timeAltDays": "*",
        "timeAltOnlyOddDays": false,
        "timeAltOnlyEvenDays": false,
        "timeAltMonths": "*",
        "timeAltOffset": 0,
        "timeAltOffsetType": "none",
        "timeAltOffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "once": false,
        "onceDelay": 0.1,
        "addPayload1": "payload",
        "addPayload1Type": "msg",
        "addPayload1Value": "true",
        "addPayload1ValueType": "bool",
        "addPayload1Format": "0",
        "addPayload1Offset": 0,
        "addPayload1OffsetType": "none",
        "addPayload1OffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "addPayload1Next": true,
        "addPayload1Days": "*",
        "addPayload2": "",
        "addPayload2Type": "none",
        "addPayload2Value": "",
        "addPayload2ValueType": "date",
        "addPayload2Format": "0",
        "addPayload2Offset": 0,
        "addPayload2OffsetType": "none",
        "addPayload2OffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "addPayload2Next": true,
        "addPayload2Days": "*",
        "addPayload3": "",
        "addPayload3Type": "none",
        "addPayload3Value": "",
        "addPayload3ValueType": "date",
        "addPayload3Format": "0",
        "addPayload3Offset": 0,
        "addPayload3OffsetType": "none",
        "addPayload3OffsetMultiplier": 60000,
        "addPayload3Next": true,
        "addPayload3Days": "*",
        "recalcTime": 2,
        "x": 200,
        "y": 702,
        "wires": [
            [
                "a8e25d7b.096c9"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "a8e25d7b.096c9",
        "type": "ioBroker out",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Jalousie_Auto",
        "topic": "0_userdata.0.Jalousie_Auto",
        "ack": "false",
        "autoCreate": "false",
        "stateName": "",
        "role": "",
        "payloadType": "",
        "readonly": "",
        "stateUnit": "",
        "stateMin": "",
        "stateMax": "",
        "x": 740,
        "y": 700,
        "wires": []
    },
    {
        "id": "8c6cc358.c1ae2",
        "type": "comment",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Automatik einschalten täglich bei Sonnenaufgang",
        "info": "",
        "x": 300,
        "y": 660,
        "wires": []
    },
    {
        "id": "123dcf3e.b406d9",
        "type": "ioBroker in",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Input / Detach Relay 0",
        "topic": "shelly.0.SHSW-25#E098068D287A#1.Relay0.Input",
        "payloadType": "value",
        "onlyack": "",
        "func": "all",
        "gap": "",
        "fireOnStart": "false",
        "x": 200,
        "y": 820,
        "wires": [
            [
                "4eb9c187.c3fe18"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "a5e4ca86.6d10d8",
        "type": "ioBroker in",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Input / Detach Relay 1",
        "topic": "shelly.0.SHSW-25#E098068D287A#1.Relay1.Input",
        "payloadType": "value",
        "onlyack": "",
        "func": "all",
        "gap": "",
        "fireOnStart": "false",
        "x": 200,
        "y": 876,
        "wires": [
            [
                "4eb9c187.c3fe18"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "2a35cade.2e905e",
        "type": "comment",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "Automatik ausschalten bei Schalterbetätigung",
        "info": "",
        "x": 280,
        "y": 780,
        "wires": []
    },
    {
        "id": "4eb9c187.c3fe18",
        "type": "change",
        "z": "149b5426.0caf34",
        "name": "set to false",
        "rules": [
            {
                "t": "set",
                "p": "payload",
                "pt": "msg",
                "to": "false",
                "tot": "bool"
            }
        ],
        "action": "",
        "property": "",
        "from": "",
        "to": "",
        "reg": false,
        "x": 450,
        "y": 840,
        "wires": [
            [
                "a8e25d7b.096c9"
            ]
        ]
    },
    {
        "id": "c97591f4.be7838",
        "type": "position-config",
        "z": "",
        "name": "",
        "isValide": "true",
        "longitude": "0",
        "latitude": "0",
        "angleType": "deg",
        "timeZoneOffset": "99",
        "timeZoneDST": "0",
        "stateTimeFormat": "3",
        "stateDateFormat": "12"
    }
]

Erscheint mir bei Betrachtung auch einfacher :-)

mickym

@SuperElmi genau! ;)

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