Test Adapter telegram-menu v.1.6.x

liv-in-sky

ich glaube nicht

{'id':'ID','text':'Your Text'} damit kann ich nur einen festen wert setzen - also nichts eingeben - der wert ist im setting definiert
{setDynamicValue:RequestText:Type:ConfirmText:} damit kann ich irgendeinen wert eingeben, aber nicht auf ein ergebnis in einem anderen dp warten

ich bräuchte eine kombi

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky Achso, noch mal zusammen gefasst. Du möchtest einen Datenpunkt setzen. Dann einen Rückgabewert von einem anderen Datenpunkt wenn dieser gesetzt wird.

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling genau :)

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky {'id':'ID','text':'Your Text'} dann würde ich dem einfach einen parameter hinzufügen das das state gelesen werden soll und das value dem text, wie bei allen anderen auch mit && als Platzhalter hinzugefügt wird

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling

wie du es am besten findest -rein semantisch wäre es halt ein setdynamicvalue

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky Achso, jetzt ist es klar. Dann hast du natürlich recht. Ich überlege mir was

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky Ist fertig zum testen. {setDynamicValue:RequestText:Type:ConfirmText:ID:} bei ID einfach die gewünschte id eintragen. Auch hier wird nur der Text geschickt wenn der State bestätigt wurde.

Bitte noch nicht updaten. Ich sage Bescheid wenn es geht

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling

wollte über github url installieren - code 0 war erfolgreich

jetzt kann ich das setting nicht mehr aufrufen - das iobroker symbol dreht ewig - der browser sagt, seite fertig geladen

ein fehler: weiß nicht, ob der dazu gehört - auch ein downgrade funktioniert jetzt nicht mehr

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host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.116	warn	adapter "telegram-menu" seems to be installed for a different version of Node.js. Trying to rebuild it... 3 attempt
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.116	error	instance system.adapter.telegram-menu.0 terminated with code 1 (JS_CONTROLLER_STOPPED)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.116	error	Caught by controller[0]: Node.js v20.13.1
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.116	error	Caught by controller[0]: }
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.116	error	Caught by controller[0]: ]
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.116	error	Caught by controller[0]: '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.telegram-menu/build/src/main.js'
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.116	error	Caught by controller[0]: '/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.telegram-menu/build/src/lib/backend/onStateChange.js',
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: requireStack: [
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: code: 'MODULE_NOT_FOUND',
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1024:12) {
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1208:32)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1416:10)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1358:14)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Object.<anonymous> (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.telegram-menu/build/src/lib/backend/onStateChange.js:7:32)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at require (node:internal/modules/helpers:179:18)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module.require (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1233:19)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:986:27)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module._resolveFilename (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/module-alias/index.js:49:29)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: at Module._resolveFilename (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1145:15)
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: - /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.telegram-menu/build/src/main.js
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: - /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.telegram-menu/build/src/lib/backend/onStateChange.js
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: Require stack:
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: Error: Cannot find module '@backend/main'
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: ^
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.115	error	Caught by controller[0]: throw err;
host.iobroker59
2024-06-23 17:20:59.114	error	Caught by controller[0]: node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1148

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky Ja ich habe nicht aufgepasst, kannst jetzt noch mal updaten

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling

ok - die 1.7.1. läuft wieder - ich probier's nochmal

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling

es wird installiert - der adapter ist jetzt grün - aber in telgram wird nicht reagiert und das setting geht auch nicht auf


telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.847	debug	Sent Value to {"xxxxx":6178} users!

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.788	debug	ParseModeType: "Markdown"

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.788	debug	ChatId : "xxxxxxx"

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.788	debug	Parse_mode : "false"

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.788	debug	UserListWithChatID : [{"name":"liv-in-sky","chatID":"xxxxxxx"}]

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.787	debug	Instance: "telegram.3"

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.787	debug	Send to: liv-in-sky => Startseite aktualisiert ....

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.787	debug	User List: [{"name":"liv-in-sky","chatID":"989074665"}]

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.783	debug	GoBackMenu {"liv-in-sky":{"list":[],"last":"an"}}

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.783	debug	Startseite: "an"

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.783	debug	MenuList: ["liv-in-sky"]

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.783	debug	Checkboxes: {"checkboxNoValueFound":false,"resKey":true,"oneTiKey":false,"sendMenuAfterRestart":true}

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.783	debug	Gen. Actions: {"an":{"nav":[["➡ Heizung","outSide","getStandort"],["Clear","CompAus","➡ Grüner"],["➡ Tests"]],"text":"Startseite aktualisiert ....","parse_mode":"false"},"➡ Heizung":{"nav":[["Room","Bad"],["Flur","Küche"],["ÜbersichtHeizung"],["BACK ↩"]],"text":"nur wenn Standort 4 {set:'id':'0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungTelegram',true,ack}","parse_mode":"false"},"➡ Grüner":{"nav":[["MelPic","MelSet","➡ SonderTour",""],["SonderStart","SonderEnde","SonderPic"],["MelBild","PostGPS(RouteRecord)"],["BACK ↩","SetLoc","SetZeit"],["RepariereKM","SetKilometer",""]],"text":"SetLoc (in Tab eintragen) zuerst Text - Sonderfahrt zuerst Button Sondertour zuerst Name","parse_mode":"false"},"➡ Tests":{"nav":[["IN","OUT"],["GetTable","GetDevices","SetWord"],["DynMenu","AlexaShopping","PostIts","LÖSCHEN","BACK ↩"]],"text":"Choose an action","parse_mode":"false"},"BACK ↩":{"nav":[["menu:back"],[""]],"text":"Wähle eine Aktion","parse_mode":"false"},"outSide":{"nav":[["menu:number0-6-1- :aussen:"],[""]],"text":"Wähle eine Aktion aus","parse_mode":"false"},"➡ SonderTour":{"nav":[["Anfahrt","Abholung"],["EndeAbholung","BeendeFahrt"],["SonderPic2","BACK ↩"]],"text":"Anfahrt zuerst Name - und Anfahrt drücken","parse_mode":"false"},"LÖSCHEN":{"nav":[["menu:deleteAll:➡ Grüner"],[""]],"text":"Choose an action","parse_mode":"false"},"Lüfter5":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.Luefter5","value":"!","toggle":true,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Lüfter ist jetzt: &amp;&amp; ","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"IN":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.telegramInnen","value":"!","toggle":true,"confirm":"true","returnText":"","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"OUT":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.telegramAUSSEN","value":"!","toggle":true,"confirm":"true","returnText":"","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"MelBild":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.sendTelegramMelikeGesamtBild","value":"-","toggle":true,"confirm":"true","returnText":"-","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"Clear":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TelegramDelete3Chat","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"ALLES LÖSCHEN ... Wait ... {novalue}","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"CompAus":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.fx6300","value":false,"toggle":true,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Computer wird abgeschalten! Value: &amp;&amp;","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"SonderStart":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.SonderfahrtBeginn","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Name und Kilometer (mit Komma) {'id':'0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.BeginnKM','text':'Kilometer Start ist &amp;&amp;'}","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"SonderEnde":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.SonderfahrtEnde","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Name und Kilometer (mit Komma) {'id':'0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.EndeKM','text':'Kilometer Ende ist &amp;&amp;'}","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"MelSet":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.MelikeSchreiben","value":"-","toggle":true,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Wert ist &amp;&amp;","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"PostGPS(RouteRecord)":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.postGPSData","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"{'id':'0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.postGPSResult','text':'GPS Post ist:\\n&amp;&amp;'}","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"aussen":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.MOTION.Standort","value":"!","toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Standort: &amp;&amp; ","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"Room":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungZimmer30","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Heizung Raum ist: &amp;&amp;","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"Bad":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.BAD.BADHeizung30","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Heizung Bad ist: &amp;&amp;","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"Flur":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.Heizung30","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Heizung Flur ist: &amp;&amp;","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"Küche":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungKueche30","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"Heizung Küche ist: &amp;&amp;","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"ÜbersichtHeizung":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungTelegram","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"-","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"SetLoc":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SetLoc","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"{'id':'0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.OldValue','text':'SetLoc ist:\\n&amp;&amp;'}","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"SetZeit":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.DailyHoursSwitch","value":true,"toggle":false,"confirm":"false","returnText":"done &&","ack":"false","parse_mode":"false"}]},"SetWord":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.TestString4","value":"&&","toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"{setDynamicValue:WaitForManualInput:Type:Input was : &&:}","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"RepariereKM":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.Kilometer.KorrektiereKilometer","value":"&&","toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"{setDynamicValue:nur Abweichung eingeben:Number: &&:}","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"SetKilometer":{"switch":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.Kilometer.SetKMoverTelegram","value":"&&","toggle":false,"confirm":"true","returnText":"setz kM {setDynamicValue:GebeGesamtKmEin:number:'Kilometer ist &&':}","ack":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"MelPic":{"sendPic":[{"id":"-","fileName":"/opt/iobroker/iobrokerMelike.png","delay":"5000"}]},"SonderPic":{"sendPic":[{"id":"-","fileName":"/opt/iobroker/iobrokerSonder.png","delay":"5000"}]},"SonderPic2":{"sendPic":[{"id":"-","fileName":"/opt/iobroker/iobrokerSonderEinmalig.png","delay":"5000"}]},"getStandort":{"getData":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.MOTION.Standort","text":"Standort ist momentan: <b>&&</b>","newline":"true","parse_mode":"true"}]},"GetTable":{"getData":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.TestJSON","text":"{json;[label:\"ErsterWert\",value:\"ZweiterWert\"];MonatsÜbersicht;}","newline":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"GetDevices":{"getData":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.STROMZÄHLER.JSONStromDaten","text":"{json;[Datum:Datum,VerbrauchMonat:VerbrauchMonat];Monatlich;TextTable;}","newline":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"AlexaShopping":{"getData":[{"id":"alexa-shoppinglist.0.list_activ","text":"{json;[name:Einträge];ALEXALIST-Shopping;shoppinglist;}","newline":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]},"PostIts":{"getData":[{"id":"0_userdata.0.Alarm-MaterialDesign.PostItMessages","text":"{json;[text:Einträge];Postit's;}","newline":"true","parse_mode":"false"}]}}

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.782	debug	Array Buttons: [{"call":"an","text":"Startseite aktualisiert ....","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["➡ Heizung","outSide","getStandort"],["Clear","CompAus","➡ Grüner"],["➡ Tests"]]},{"call":"➡ Heizung","text":"nur wenn Standort 4 {set:'id':'0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungTelegram',true,ack}","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["Room","Bad"],["Flur","Küche"],["ÜbersichtHeizung"],["BACK ↩"]]},{"call":"➡ Grüner","text":"SetLoc (in Tab eintragen) zuerst Text - Sonderfahrt zuerst Button Sondertour zuerst Name","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["MelPic","MelSet","➡ SonderTour",""],["SonderStart","SonderEnde","SonderPic"],["MelBild","PostGPS(RouteRecord)"],["BACK ↩","SetLoc","SetZeit"],["RepariereKM","SetKilometer",""]]},{"call":"➡ Tests","text":"Choose an action","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["IN","OUT"],["GetTable","GetDevices","SetWord"],["DynMenu","AlexaShopping","PostIts","LÖSCHEN","BACK ↩"]]},{"call":"BACK ↩","text":"Wähle eine Aktion","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["menu:back"],[""]]},{"call":"outSide","text":"Wähle eine Aktion aus","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["menu:number0-6-1- :aussen:"],[""]]},{"call":"➡ SonderTour","text":"Anfahrt zuerst Name - und Anfahrt drücken","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["Anfahrt","Abholung"],["EndeAbholung","BeendeFahrt"],["SonderPic2","BACK ↩"]]},{"call":"LÖSCHEN","text":"Choose an action","parse_mode":"false","nav":[["menu:deleteAll:➡ Grüner"],[""]]}]

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.782	debug	MenuName: "liv-in-sky"

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.782	debug	Subscribe all States of: [["0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TelegramDelete3Chat"]]

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.782	debug	Subscribe all States of: ["0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.Luefter5","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.telegramInnen","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.telegramAUSSEN","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.sendTelegramMelikeGesamtBild","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TelegramDelete3Chat","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.fx6300","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.SonderfahrtBeginn","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.SonderfahrtEnde","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.MelikeSchreiben","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.postGPSData","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.MOTION.Standort","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungZimmer30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.BAD.BADHeizung30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.Heizung30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungKueche30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungTelegram","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SetLoc","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.DailyHoursSwitch","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.TestString4","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.Kilometer.KorrektiereKilometer","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.Kilometer.SetKMoverTelegram"]

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.782	debug	SubscribeForeignStates: ["0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.Luefter5","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.telegramInnen","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.telegramAUSSEN","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.sendTelegramMelikeGesamtBild","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TelegramDelete3Chat","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.fx6300","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.SonderfahrtBeginn","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SONDERFAHRT.SonderfahrtEnde","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.MelikeSchreiben","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.postGPSData","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.MOTION.Standort","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungZimmer30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.BAD.BADHeizung30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.Heizung30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungKueche30","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.HeizungTelegram","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.SetLoc","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.DailyHoursSwitch","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.AAATEST.TestString4","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.Kilometer.KorrektiereKilometer","0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.Kilometer.SetKMoverTelegram"]

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.780	debug	Telegram Info Connection: true

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.771	info	Telegram was found

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.763	info	StartSides {"liv-in-sky":"an"}

telegram-menu.0
2024-06-23 17:30:27.752	info	starting. Version 1.7.3 (non-npm: MiRo1310/ioBroker.telegram-menu#9a12d94de9f0dfd9cb6800d909f66b54191999c6) in /opt/iobroker/node_modules/iobroker.telegram-menu, node: v20.13.1, js-controller: 5.0.19

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky Stimmt, was ist das denn jetzt. Moment ich mache mal was rückgängig

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling

node 20 ?

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky Nein nein, warte kurz

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky geh wieder auf 1.7.3 . Ich muss mir das in Ruhe anschauen, ich weiss nicht was da jetzt auf einmal los ist

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling geht leider nicht mehr - muss auf 1.7.1 gehen, damit ich das setting öffnen kann

1.7.2. kann auch kein setting öffnen

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky okay

Michael Roling

@liv-in-sky So ich habe es hin bekommen, was ein Sch....
Ich habe es bei mir installiert und ich komme auch auf die UI, also bitte einmal testen.

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling hoffe, du hast nicht die ganze nacht durchgemacht :-) - setting wieder erreichbar - den test, um was es eigendlich ging - liefere ich bald nach

danke

liv-in-sky

@michael-roling

test erfolgreich :-) :-)

{setDynamicValue:GebeGesamtKmEin:number:Kilometer ist &&:0_userdata.0.CONTROL-OWN.TRACCAR.Kilometer.Stand:}

wenn du zeit hast, evtl noch in die hilfe im setting mit eingeben - funktioniert dann das ganze auch noch, wenn ich eine fremd-id am ende weglasse - also der orginal befehl

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