Einfach mal zeigen will….. :-) - Teil 3

[Frederik Buss]

@maximal1981 Danke für das Feedback. Die Wassertropfen sind ja nur da, wenns regnet, Sonne wäre mir grad auch lieber Aber stimmt schon, die sind sehr präsent... Sobald alle Views fertig sind, schaue ich mir die ganzen Wetter- Hintergrundbilder nochmal genauer an.
So siehts dann ohne Regen aus

[dos1973]

@frederik-buss

Ich finds klasse, danke fürs teilen.
Wäre an deinen Wetter Bildern interessiert…

[Frederik Buss]

@dos1973 Das Prinzip ist einfach eine Verknüpfung mit dem Accuweather Adapter. Ein HTML Widget (Inaktiv/Locked) mit der Background Eigenschaft:

URL("/vis.0/main2/background2/{accuweather.0.Current.WeatherIcon}.png")

Die Bilder im Verzeichnis spiegeln dann mittel Benennung das Wetter wieder, also 1.png = sonnig usw.

[sol21]

@dos1973 Beim Stromverbrauch hast Du als Einheit jeweils "kw/h" genommen. Müsste das nicht "kWh" sein?

[dos1973]

@frederik-buss
Es ist schon klar wie es funktioniert ö, ich habs ja auch in der Form.
Wie gesagt, die bilder für sonne, schnee, Regen wären interessant. Bei Regen hab ich ja den Hund. Kannst vielleicht mal nur Screenshots reinstellen…

[dos1973]

@sol21
Uii, ganz dünnes eis für mich.
Keine Ahnung was richtig ist.

[Frederik Buss]

@dos1973 Klar, here you go

Einige sind doppelt - z.B. 12 und 18 = Schauer und Regen, da nehme ich dasselbe Bild.

[Frederik Buss]

@dos1973 kWh ist richtig = Kilowattstunden. kW/h gibt es auch, ist aber Kilowatt pro Stunde, also z.B. ein Durchschnittswert und nicht der tatsächliche Verbrauch, den Du anzeigst.

[dos1973]

@frederik-buss

Hi, wäre daran interessiert wie ihr eure Hue Lampen in VIS eingbunden habt.
Insbesondere Fab und Temperatur Wechsel. Danke

[Negalein]

@dos1973 sagte in Einfach mal zeigen will….. - Teil 3:

Hi, wäre daran interessiert wie ihr eure Hue Lampen in VIS eingbunden habt.

so zB

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[oxident]

@dos1973 Bei mir etwas abgefahren, weil ganze Decke voll

Einfach mit den Material Design Widgets als Buttons. Farbwechsel und Helligkeit bekomme ich da aber (noch) nicht untergebracht.

[dos1973]

@oxident
Na, das ist echt abgefahren.

Ich suche irgendwas mit silder für farbe, etc

[Negalein]

@dos1973 sagte in Einfach mal zeigen will….. - Teil 3:

Ich suche irgendwas mit silder für farbe, etc

hab ich dir doch schon geschickt

[Frederik Buss]

@dos1973 Da wir das Tablet für Lampen sehr häufig benutzen, sollen alle Lichtfunktionen möglichst mit einem Klick erreichbar sein. Daher habe ich die Hue Lampen nur mit Buttons versehen, die sich einblenden, wenn der Aktor an ist.
Beispiel Esstisch:

Wird eingeschaltet:

Mini-menü wird nach 30sek. ausgeblendet und lässt sich durch das Lampensymbol oben links bei Bedarf wieder einblenden:

Für detailliertere Aktionen blende ich in der unteren Hälfte jeweils ein Pop-up ein, hier z.B. der Color Picker für die LED Deckenfarbe:

[Frederik Buss]

So, es ist vollbracht... Der neue Touchscreen mit Raspi hat das Tablet abgelöst:

Ich habe nun die Statuseinträge auf die obere Hälfte platziert und die Steuerseiten auf der unteren Hälfte eingeblendet. Offen ist bislang noch der Wetter-gesteuerte Hintergrund. Accuweather hat nicht für jede Wetterlage einen Nachteintrag. Das nächste Projekt ist also die Tag/Nachtabfrage und entsprechender Hintergrundanzeige.
Ideen/Kritik immer gerne

[dos1973]

@frederik-buss

Sieht gut aus.!
Mich würde interessieren welches Tablet und wie du es montiert hast.

[Frederik Buss]

@dos1973 Also das Neue ist kein richtiges Tablet sondern "nur" ein Touchscreen :
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0CC1BRMJ9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
Der hat von Haus aus 4 Gewinde (VESA), von der Schrankinnenseite gekontert und mittels Heißkleber und Wasserwaage fixiert. Angesteuert wird das per Raspi4 und Darstellung per Chromium. Das Display geht nach 15 Minuten in den Energiesparmodus und wird mit einem HMIP Bewegungsmelder in der Küche (war schon vorhanden...) per SSH automatisch "aufgeweckt".
Für das vorher montierte Tablet habe ich eine sehr flache Aufhängung benutzt:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09XWLMVQH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Die wurde seitlich durch einen USB U-Stecker fixiert und war somit einerseits fixiert, konnte aber auch abgenommen werden:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09KG463G7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

[woupi]

@frederik-buss
Vielen Dank für die sehr informativen Informationen.
Könntest du uns der Vollständigkeitshalber noch mitteilen um welches Tablett es sich gehandelt hat. Und wenn du uns noch deine Erfahrungen im Unterschied der beiden Lösungen mitteilen könntest, wäre bestimmt nicht nur ich, dir sehr Dankbar.

Ich bin immer erstaunt was manche Personen so finden. Ich benutze definitiv die falschen Suchwörter. Ich habe vor einiger Zeit genau nach so einer Lösung gesucht, also entweder Tablett oder Touchscreen, habe aber nicht wirklich was bezahlbares gefunden.

Darum nochmal, danke für die Infos.
VG
Sascha

[Frederik Buss]

@woupi Das war ein Lenovo M10 mit Fully Browser, Tasker und MotionDetector. Preislich sehr im Rahmen, das Tablet glaube ich 150€ und der Kleinkram mit Halterung, USB U-Winkel, Kabel und so mit 10-20€. Hat ganz gut funktioniert, wenn auch mit ein paar Macken. Letztlich ist es mir aber zu klein geworden, deshalb habe ich nach einer günstigen Lösung mit größerem Display gesucht. Da ich iobroker und Homematic vor einiger Zeit auf einen ThinClint mit Proxmox umgezogen habe, sind 2 Raspis frei geworden, deshalb ist die Touchscreenlösung mit 140€ + Kleinkram (HDMI Kabel etc) preislich für mich unschlagbar gewesen. Hier die Vor/Nachteile von Tablet / Display:
Tablet:
(+) Fertige Apps: Fully Browser, Tasker, Motion Detector
(+) Verhalten des Touchscreen inklusive Gesten (z.B. Ziehen von Reglern) sowie Einblenden der Bildschirmtastatur
(+) Integrierte Kamera, die nicht nur für Bildschirm aufwachen genutzt werden kann, sondern auch für Standbilder / Videos
(+) Einfach abnehmbar mit der Lösung Halterung & Fixierung per U-Stück (Lösung schreibe ich separat, ich glaube die gibt es so noch nicht, hat aber richtig gut funktioniert)
(-) Der Motion Detector ist so semi stabil. Der musste ca. 1x pro Woche manuell neu gestartet werden, sonst ist das Display nicht von selbst aufgewacht.
(-) Der Fully Browser neigt dazu beim Aufwachen den kompletten View neuladen zu wollen, was leider dauert.
(-) Hin und wieder hat sich der Fully Browser entweder komplett verabschiedet, oder Android war der Meinung irgendwas anzeigen zu müssen und den Fully zu schliessen
(-) Display zu klein (10")

Touchscreen:
(+) Display hat optimale Größe (14" - 1920x1080) und Seitenverhältnis
(+) Bessere/schnellere Reaktion beim Bedienen durch abgespecktes Linuxsystem auf dem Raspi 4. Am deutlichsten merke ich das beim Bedienen der Laustärke für SONOS: Einmal Klick = 5% mehr oder weniger Laut, das wird viel schneller vom Raspi verarbeitet und gesendet, entsprechend angenhemer ist die Bedienung im Vergleich zum trägeren Tablet.
(+) Deutlich mehr Freiheit bei der (System-)Einstellung Dank Linux System
(+) Einfache Einbindung meines (vorhandenen) HMIP Bewegungsmelders zum Aufwecken des Displays (per SSH Befehl)
(+) Sehr stabil, ohne einen Absturz/Schliessen des Browser etc. - seit ca. 6 Wochen Probebetrieb keinerlei Probleme
(-) Einblenden der Bildschirmtastatur ist unter Linux wirklich schlecht. Gut funktioniert die Chromium-interne Tastatur zur Bedienung der VIS, für Aktionen ausserhalb Chromium nutzt man aber am Besten SSH, VNC oder eine externe Tastatur
(-) Klicken und Ziehen von Reglern ist etwas fummelig, was aber wohl an der Einstellung liegt, so dass Chromium einmal Klicken als 2 Ereignisse interpretiert. Das wird wohl zu lösen sein, habe ich aber erstmal hinten angestellt.
(-) Alles muss unter Linux "zu Fuss" eingerichtet werden, sobald es vom Standard abweicht. Das geht schon bei der Bildschirmorientierung los - Mittlerweile geht es, aber der Weg dahin nicht nur die Darstellung sondern auch den Touchbereich richtig zu orientieren hat gedauert. Man muss kein Linux Held sein, aber muss schon ein wenig wissen was man tut - Wie richte ich Cronjobs richtig ein, wo sind die Autostart Dateien, was ist der Unterschied zwischen X und Wayland etc.
(-) Keine integrierte Kamera. Mit dem Raspi lässt sich ein Bewegungsmelder oder eine Kamera direkt anschliessen, wenn man das möchte, ist aber Zusatzaufwand und diese muss irgendwo plaziert werden. Ich habe mich daher aktuell dagegen entschieden, der HMIP Bewegungsmelder macht das Aufwecken des Displays genauso zuverlässig und zur Raumüberwachung (Hund...) überlege ich mir noch eine Lösung.

Zusammengefasst gibt es bei beiden Lösungen Vor- und Nachteile. Vorausgesetzt, man kommt mit Linux klar, sind es 3 Vorteile der Touchscreen/Raspi Lösung, weshalb ich diese Lösung empfehle: 1) Es ist schneller 2) Es ist stabiler 3) Preislich unschlagbar bei der Displaygröße, vor allem wenn ein Raspi 4/5 vorhanden ist.

[Frederik Buss]

@dos1973 said in Einfach mal zeigen will….. - Teil 3:

@frederik-buss

Sieht gut aus.!
Mich würde interessieren welches Tablet und wie du es montiert hast.

Hier eine etwas ausführlichere Beschreibung für das Tablet: https://forum.iobroker.net/topic/71719/wandhalterung-für-tablets-abnehmber-und-fast-unsichtbar