[gelöst]Can-Bus Adapter: keine Verbindung zur Junkers WP

[emblitz]

@crycode Ja, gern.
Die wichtigsten Datenpunkte um einen Überblick des Betriebs der WP zu bekommen, sind enthalten. Leider fehlen die Zählwerte der erzeugten Energien. z.B. für die automatische Berechnung des COP/JAZ.
Das ist die Datei des Exports aus der Canbus-Instanz:

canbus-messages.json

LG emblitz

[hbrockmann]

@crycode
von mir auch noch mal ein danke, ich hab mich da mal über emblitz mit dran gehängt..

anbei die konfiguration für eine junkers ste60 (ohne -1)

die letzten drei bits (6,7,8) der id scheinen modelspezifisch zu sein, aber die bits 2,3,4,5 (ich nenne sie mal register), scheinen zumindest bei junkers in vielen bereichen übereinzustimmen.

junkers_ste60_canbus-messages.json

ich bekomme zwar einige register mehr ausgelesen als emblitz, aber bis auf das datum+uhrzeit habe ich da noch nicht viel brauchbares zusätzlich identifizieren können.

gruß hb

edit:
eine neue formel aus dem fhem forum, aber an der umsetzung in den iobroker code hapert es momentan noch..

Gegebenenfalls noch interessant:
eine genauere Linearisierung als das Polynom 3. Ordnung (+-0.3°C) ergibt sich mit dem Polynom 5.Ordnung (+-0.1°C)
Die Funktion läst sich mittels 'Trendlinie' oder RGP Funktion in Excel bzw. OpenOffice Calc ermitteln.

f(x) = − 5,63141E-13 x⁵ + 1,53737E-09 x⁴ − 1,7745E-06 x³ + 0,00108586 x² − 0,4378966 x + 116,88035

mein versuch war:

const f4 = buffer.readUInt16BE(0);
value = - (5.63141E-13 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (1.53737E-09 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) − (1.7745E-06 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (0.00108586 * f4 * f4) − (0.4378966 * f4) + 116.88035;
value = Math.round(value * 10 ) / 10;

[crycode]

@hbrockmann sagte in [gelöst]Can-Bus Adapter: keine Verbindung zur Junkers WP:

f(x) = − 5,63141E-13 x⁵ + 1,53737E-09 x⁴ − 1,7745E-06 x³ + 0,00108586 x² − 0,4378966 x + 116,88035

Ich denke das sollte passen:

value = (-5.63141E-13 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (1.53737E-09 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) − (1.7745E-06 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (0.00108586 * f4 * f4) − (0.4378966 * f4) + 116.88035;

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Die Konfigs in GitHub mit aufnehmen mache ich in den nächsten Tagen. Danke euch schon mal dafür!

[hbrockmann]

@crycode
leider noch nicht..
ich hab da schon einige versuche durch, auch den mit dem minus innerhalb der klammer..

value = (-5.63141E-13 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (1.53737E-09 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) − (1.7745E-06 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (0.00108586 * f4 * f4) − (0.4378966 * f4) + 116.88035;
 ^ SyntaxError: Unexpected character '−' at makeNiceSyntaxError (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/vm2/lib/transformer.js:41:16) at transformer (/opt/iobroker/node_modules/vm2/lib/transformer.js:84:8) at NodeVM.run
....diverse andere weitere fehler....

[crycode]

@hbrockmann Ah... du hast da wohl anstatt einem Minus-Zeichens ein anderes Zeichen drin, was nahezu identisch aussieht.

Versuch mal das:

value = (-5.63141E-13 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (1.53737E-09 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) - (1.7745E-06 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (0.00108586 * f4 * f4) - (0.4378966 * f4) + 116.88035;

[hbrockmann]

@crycode said in [gelöst]Can-Bus Adapter: keine Verbindung zur Junkers WP:

value = (-5.63141E-13 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (1.53737E-09 * f4 * f4 * f4 * f4) - (1.7745E-06 * f4 * f4 * f4) + (0.00108586 * f4 * f4) - (0.4378966 * f4) + 116.88035;

..§$%&/~@€#.. ich glaubs nicht..
das war es.. was auch immer das für ein zeichen war..

danke..!!!!

anbei der überarbeitete export..
junkers_ste60_canbus-messages.json

edit:
das hat mir ja nun keine ruhe gelassen.. aber ja, im hex editor ist es deutlich zu erkennen das "pseudo-minus"..

[emblitz]

@hbrockmann
Hallo,
ich habe die neue Formel in einem separaten Parser für den VL auch ausprobiert. Das Ergebnis liegt nun nur noch -0,1°C satt vorher -0,2°C vom Displaywert "daneben". Die Formel scheint wie im Fhem-Forum berichtet , in der Tat etwas genauer zu rechnen. Sehr gut!
Eventl. schaffen wir es nocht auf den Punkt
Ich beobachte den weiteren Verlauf morgen und werde die anderen Werte vermutl. ebenfalls mit der neuen Formel berechnen lassen.
Nach der kompletten Anpassung lade ich dann wieder hier die Config-Datei hoch.

@crycode: Warte mal noch mit dem Hochladen nach Github!

@ hbrockmann:
Bekommts du nun auch plausible Werte mit deiner WP?

LG
emblitz

[hbrockmann]

@emblitz said in [gelöst]Can-Bus Adapter: keine Verbindung zur Junkers WP:

@ hbrockmann:
Bekommts du nun auch plausible Werte mit deiner WP?

LG
emblitz

auf jeden fall sind die bekannten nun noch dichter dran an den displaywerten, wie bei dir auch..

bei den unbekannten war es leider kein fortschritt..

[hbrockmann]

es ist schade, das niemand mit einem mb-lan 2 hier vertreten ist.

es könnte gut sein, das man beim anschluss des mb-lan 2 erkennen kann, wie es die daten abfragt.

[hbrockmann]

mike3436 aus dem fhem forum hat für den durchbruch gesorgt..!
ein fettes dickes danke an ihn..!

nach dem der socketcand für sein modul im fhem bei mir ums verrecken nicht laufen wollte,
hat er angeboten mal mit mir da drauf zu schauen und siehe da, das problem war ein fehlerhaft als service gestarteter socketcand.

warum der nicht als service lief bleibt erstmal dahingestellt, fakt ist, das er bei "normalem" start dann auch funktioniert hat
und aus meiner junkers ste60 problemlos eine liste der register ausgelesen hat.

die ist leider deutlich zu lang um hier komplett in die codebox zu passen..

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...leider zu lang für das forum

nach weiteren erläuterungen durch ihn wurde dann auch klar wie man einzelne register abfragen kann.
ein test für "STATS_ENERGY_OUTPUT" über "cansend can0 05BC3FE0#R0" und gleichzeitigen "candump can0" in einer anderen session
gab eine antwort des abgefragten registers.
can0 05BB3FE0 [0] remote request
can0 0DBB3FE0 [4] 00 6B 52 F3
abgefragt wird also immer das "rtr" register, die antwort über das register mit dem arrayheader, in diesem fall 0DBC3FE0.

wie gesagt, ein dickes danke an ihn..

[hbrockmann]

kann man eigentlich irgendwie über den canbus adapter "jobs" einstellen?
also frage monatlich/wöchentlich/täglich um 00:01 folgende register ab z.b.

cansend can0 05BC3FE0#R0

edit:
ich habe das jetzt erstmal über einen cronjob auf dem raspi gelöst, aber eleganter wäre es schon im adapter selber.