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[Tobito]

@oliverio
Erst mal ein herzliches Dankeschön! Tolle Arbeit.
Mir ist folgendes aufgefallen:

1. Bereits erstelle Gruppierungen bleiben von dem Fix unverändert. Auch das Bearbeiten oder Kopieren/Neueinfügen der Gruppierung hilft dabei nichts.
2. Bei neu erstellten Gruppierungen löst der Fix bei mir das Problem.

Testsystem:
Raspi4B 4GB
vis v1.4.12
web v4.1.1
iobroker wurde nach update neu gestartet, Webbrowser Cache geleert, neu gestartet

[OliverIO]

@tobito
das ist korrekt.
die Lösung war, das sich jedes widget merkt, zu welcher gruppe es gehört.
das passiert beim gruppieren.

für vor 1.4.11. gruppierte widgets fehlt die information immer noch,
aber durch entfernen der gruppierung und gleich wieder gruppieren wird das behoben.

danke fürs testen

[SpacerX]

Ich hole den Thread noch mal hoch weil das Springen von Gruppierten Widgets mit Binding bei mir ebenfalls auftritt.

node.js: v14.19.3
npm: 6.14.17
admin: 5.3.8
web: 4.3.0
vis: 1.4.15

Hier die Gruppe mit den Widgets. Ist noch nicht fertig weil das Springen der Widgets erst geklärt werden muss.

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Wie weiter Oben beschrieben Springen die Image-Widgets bei Aktualisierung aus der Gruppe.
Nett wen da einer drüber schauen könnte und eine Lösung parat hat.

mfg Ralf

[OliverIO]

@spacerx
hast du die beiden Posts direkt vor deinem gelesen?

[SpacerX]

@oliverio

Ja habe ich. Die Gruppe + Widgets wurden erst vorige Woche erstellt und d war schon Vis 1.5.15 und web 4.3.0 auf dem System.

[OliverIO]

@spacerx

dann musst du das mit dem springen näher beschreiben.

oben das original importierte
unten das kopierte und eingefügte
ich sehe kein widget, welches relativ die position geändert hat

kannst du mir den inhalt der datenpunkte bereitstellen?
ich habe tankerkönig nicht installiert und würde das gern mit testdatenpunkten nachstellen

[SpacerX]

@OliverIO

Dies Springen erfolgt erst nach dem aktualisieren automatischen Reload der View. Dauert bei mir etwa 15min. Ich mach mal Screenshot wenn's soweit ist.

Ich habe jetzt gerade noch mal die Gruppe aufgelöst und die Widgets neu Gruppiert. Jetzt warte ich mal 15min.

[OliverIO]

@spacerx
und den inhalt der relevanten datenpunkte bitte

[SpacerX]

@oliverio!

Nach dem ich die Gruppe aufgelöst und die Widgets neu Gruppiert habe ist es noch nicht wieder aufgetreten.

Trotzdem mal die Datenpunkte.

SnipSnap_3.PNG

Versuch doch mal im Vis-Edit zu einer bestehenden Gruppe nach dem öffnen dieser ein Widget mit einem Binding mit If-Abfrage zu erstellen und die Gruppe dann zu Schließen.
So habe ich meine Gruppierten Widgets erstellt.

Nach ein paar Minuten ist das Widget dann an einer anderen Stelle.

Ich versuche das Morgen mal nach zu Stellen.

[OliverIO]

@spacerx

ich mag nicht tippen und alles sehen kann man auch nicht.
bitte die inhalte der folgenden datenpunkte hier reinkopieren (kein screenshot)

tankerkoenig.0.stations.cheapest.diesel.combined
tankerkoenig.0.stations.cheapest.e10.combined
tankerkoenig.0.stations.cheapest.e5.combined
tankerkoenig.0.stations.cheapest.diesel.name
tankerkoenig.0.stations.cheapest.e10.name
tankerkoenig.0.stations.cheapest.e5.name

[SpacerX]

@oliverio

Ich mache es mal einfach und zeige meinen Test:

Nach aktualisieren des Datenpunktes ist das Bild gesprungen. Lade ich die Seite im Browser nochmal neu ist alles wieder schick.

Die Gruppe dazu:

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Datenpunkt:

{
  "common": {
    "name": "Test_String",
    "desc": "Manuell erzeugt",
    "role": "state",
    "type": "string",
    "read": true,
    "write": true,
    "def": ""
  },
  "type": "state",
  "from": "system.adapter.admin.0",
  "user": "system.user.spacerx",
  "ts": 1655830389195,
  "_id": "0_userdata.0.Test_String",
  "acl": {
    "object": 1636,
    "state": 1636,
    "owner": "system.user.spacerx",
    "ownerGroup": "system.group.administrator"
  }
}

Inhalt vom Datenpunkt: "HEM|OrtDerTankstelle"

Image liegt unter /vis.0/Tankicons/HEM.png

Für heute bin ich dann mal weg.

[OliverIO]

@spacerx sagte in Objekt-Binding und Gruppierung:

Tankicons

Hallo,

ich habe es gerade mit vis 1.4.15 ausprobiert.
Bei mir funktioniert es.
Kein springendes Widget.
Den Effekt konnte ich aber mit einem etwas älteren vis nachvollziehen
bevor diese Verbesserung enthalten war
https://github.com/ioBroker/ioBroker.vis/pull/456

[SpacerX]

@oliverio Danke für's drüber schauen.

Wie geschrieben, mein System nach Stable-Repo aktuell.

node.js: v14.19.3
npm: 6.14.17
admin: 5.3.8
web: 4.3.0
vis: 1.4.15

Passiert nur wenn ich in einer geöffneten Gruppe ein Widget mit Binding neu erstelle und der Datenpunkt auf den das Binding angelegt ist aktualisiert wird.
Aber sei es drum, ich behelfe mich damit die Gruppe aufzulösen und dann neu zu Gruppieren. Muss dann zwar bei allen Widgets die Position von Prozent wieder auf Pixel umstellen oder löschen da ich peer CSS positioniere.

Was mir noch so aufgefallen ist:

Das Widget was den Rahmen bildet hat im Export stehen:

"grouped":true,"groupid":"g00030","groupName":"w00396"

Das Widget was das Binding enthält steht so da in der Gruppe, es fehlt die groupid:

"grouped":true,"groupName":"w00397"

[OliverIO]

@spacerx grouping.avi

wie gesagt das ist der usprüngliche effekt in vis gewesen der aber korrigiert wurde.
leere mal den cache des browsers

oder schau mal im folgenden link

http://deineiobrokeradresse:8082/vis/js/vis.js

kopiere das in einen editor mit zeilennummern
ob in zeile 1608
das hier steht

            $view = $('#' + groupId);

[SpacerX]

@oliverio
Browserverlauf Gesamt alles gelöscht.
In Zeile 1608 der Vis.js steht genau die vorgegebene Zuweisung.

Meinen Test noch mal ausgeführt. Bei Aktualisierung des Datenpunktes springt das Widget von der Position die ich ihm peer CSS innerhalb der Gruppe zugewiesen habe.

mfg Ralf.

[SpacerX]

Ich hab jetzt mal noch die Gruppe Exportiert und im Texteditor für das betreffende Widget die groupid gleich dem anderen Widget was sich in der Gruppe befindet hinzugefügt.
Den gesamten Text dann wieder als Widget importiert.

Nun noch mal zur Kontrolle Widget Exportieren geklickt und im Dialog nachgeschaut.
Nun fehlen bei beiden Widgets die jeweilige groupid.

B-/

[OliverIO]

@spacerx said in Objekt-Binding und Gruppierung:

Browserverlauf Gesamt alles gelöscht.

nicht den browserverlauf.
den browser cache bitte löschen
https://browser-cache-leeren.de/windows.html

habe das mit dem exportieren ebenfalls getestet.
bleibt bei mir alles erhalten

du könntest auf der konsole im iobroker verzeichnis auch
mal den folgenden befehl eingeben

iob upload all

das registriert im iobroker web server alle dateien neu.

was steht in zeile 1608, was ich weiter oben gefragt habe?

[SpacerX]

@oliverio sagte in Objekt-Binding und Gruppierung:

was steht in zeile 1608, was ich weiter oben gefragt habe?

genau das was du abgefragt hast.

$view = $('#' + groupId);

Nichts für ungut, ich weis wie man den Browsercache löscht. Geht bei Edge auch über Verlauf/Browserdaten löschen.

Ich werd jetzt erst mal noch

iob upload all

durchführen.

[SpacerX]

Ich hab dann mal folgendes Ausgeführt:

spacerx@ioBroker:~$ iob stop      
spacerx@ioBroker:~$ iob update
Used repository: stable
Adapter    "admin"        : 5.3.8    , installed 5.3.8
Adapter    "alexa2"       : 3.11.2   , installed 3.11.2
Adapter    "alias-manager": 1.2.4    , installed 1.2.4
Adapter    "daswetter"    : 3.1.2    , installed 3.1.2
Adapter    "discovery"    : 3.0.3    , installed 3.0.3
Adapter    "fullybrowser" : 2.1.2    , installed 2.1.2
Adapter    "hekr"         : 0.0.6    , installed 0.0.6
Adapter    "hm-rega"      : 3.0.40   , installed 3.0.40
Adapter    "hm-rpc"       : 1.15.12  , installed 1.15.12
Adapter    "icons-material-png": 0.1.0, installed 0.1.0
Adapter    "icons-material-svg": 0.1.0, installed 0.1.0
Adapter    "icons-mfd-png": 1.1.0    , installed 1.1.0
Adapter    "icons-mfd-svg": 1.1.0    , installed 1.1.0
Adapter    "influxdb"     : 2.6.3    , installed 2.6.3
Adapter    "iot"          : 1.11.4   , installed 1.11.4
Adapter    "javascript"   : 5.7.0    , installed 5.7.0
Controller "js-controller": 4.0.23   , installed 4.0.23
Adapter    "logparser"    : 1.1.0    , installed 1.1.0
Adapter    "ping"         : 1.5.3    , installed 1.5.3
Adapter    "shelly"       : 5.3.2    , installed 5.3.2
Adapter    "simple-api"   : 2.7.0    , installed 2.7.0
Adapter    "socketio"     : 4.2.0    , installed 4.2.0
Adapter    "tankerkoenig" : 2.1.1    , installed 2.1.1
Adapter    "telegram"     : 1.13.0   , installed 1.13.0
Adapter    "text2command" : 2.2.1    , installed 2.2.1
Adapter    "vis"          : 1.4.15   , installed 1.4.15
Adapter    "vis-icontwo"  : 0.87.0   , installed 0.87.0
Adapter    "vis-justgage" : 1.0.2    , installed 1.0.2
Adapter    "vis-timeandweather": 1.1.7, installed 1.1.7
Adapter    "web"          : 4.3.0    , installed 4.3.0
Adapter    "ws"           : 1.3.0    , installed 1.3.0

spacerx@ioBroker:~$ iob upgrade self
Host    "ioBroker"       is up to date.
spacerx@ioBroker:~$ iob upgrade     
All adapters are up to date
spacerx@ioBroker:~$ iob fix    
library: loaded
Library version=2022-06-15

==========================================================================

    Welcome to the ioBroker installation fixer!
    Script version: 2022-06-03
    
    You might need to enter your password a couple of times.

==========================================================================


==========================================================================
    Installing prerequisites (1/3)
==========================================================================

[sudo] password for spacerx: 
Get:1 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security InRelease [44.1 kB]
Hit:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bullseye InRelease                                                         
Get:3 http://ftp.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates InRelease [39.4 kB]                           
Get:4 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security/main amd64 Packages [160 kB]                  
Hit:5 https://deb.nodesource.com/node_14.x bullseye InRelease
Get:6 http://security.debian.org bullseye-security/main Translation-en [99.8 kB]
Fetched 344 kB in 0s (884 kB/s)                                 
Reading package lists... Done
Installed gcc-c++

==========================================================================
    Checking ioBroker user and directory permissions (2/3)
==========================================================================

Created /etc/sudoers.d/iobroker
Fixing directory permissions...

==========================================================================
    Checking autostart (3/3)
==========================================================================

Enabling autostart...
Autostart enabled!

==========================================================================

    Your installation was fixed successfully
    Run iobroker start to start ioBroker again!

==========================================================================

spacerx@ioBroker:~$ iob start
spacerx@ioBroker:~$ 

Dann mal meine Testgruppe neu Erstellt und den zugehörigen Datenpunkt aktualisiert. Das Widget springt wieder.
Die Gruppe Exportiert und die groupid im Texteeditor hinzugefügt. Text als Widget importiert noch mal im Exportdialog nachgeschaut und die groupid ist wieder weg.

Hier noch mal mein korrigierter Export:

[{"tpl":"_tplGroup","data":{"members":["w00401","w00398"],"visibility-cond":"==","visibility-val":1,"visibility-groups-action":"hide","attrCount":"1","signals-cond-0":"==","signals-val-0":true,"signals-icon-0":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-0":0,"signals-blink-0":false,"signals-horz-0":0,"signals-vert-0":0,"signals-hide-edit-0":false,"signals-cond-1":"==","signals-val-1":true,"signals-icon-1":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-1":0,"signals-blink-1":false,"signals-horz-1":0,"signals-vert-1":0,"signals-hide-edit-1":false,"signals-cond-2":"==","signals-val-2":true,"signals-icon-2":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-2":0,"signals-blink-2":false,"signals-horz-2":0,"signals-vert-2":0,"signals-hide-edit-2":false,"lc-type":"last-change","lc-is-interval":true,"lc-is-moment":false,"lc-format":"","lc-position-vert":"top","lc-position-horz":"right","lc-offset-vert":0,"lc-offset-horz":0,"lc-font-size":"12px","lc-font-family":"","lc-font-style":"","lc-bkg-color":"","lc-color":"","lc-border-width":"0","lc-border-style":"","lc-border-color":"","lc-border-radius":10,"lc-zindex":0},"widgetSet":null,"style":{"top":"266px","left":"193px","width":"184px","height":"189px"}},{"tpl":"tplFrame","data":{"g_fixed":true,"g_visibility":false,"g_css_font_text":false,"g_css_background":false,"g_css_shadow_padding":false,"g_css_border":false,"g_gestures":false,"g_signals":false,"g_last_change":false,"visibility-cond":"==","visibility-val":1,"visibility-groups-action":"hide","title":" Test_Neu","title_color":"","title_top":"0","title_left":"0","header_height":"0","header_color":"black","signals-cond-0":"==","signals-val-0":true,"signals-icon-0":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-0":0,"signals-blink-0":false,"signals-horz-0":0,"signals-vert-0":0,"signals-hide-edit-0":false,"signals-cond-1":"==","signals-val-1":true,"signals-icon-1":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-1":0,"signals-blink-1":false,"signals-horz-1":0,"signals-vert-1":0,"signals-hide-edit-1":false,"signals-cond-2":"==","signals-val-2":true,"signals-icon-2":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-2":0,"signals-blink-2":false,"signals-horz-2":0,"signals-vert-2":0,"signals-hide-edit-2":false,"lc-type":"last-change","lc-is-interval":true,"lc-is-moment":false,"lc-format":"","lc-position-vert":"top","lc-position-horz":"right","lc-offset-vert":0,"lc-offset-horz":0,"lc-font-size":"12px","lc-font-family":"","lc-font-style":"","lc-bkg-color":"","lc-color":"","lc-border-width":"0","lc-border-style":"","lc-border-color":"","lc-border-radius":10,"lc-zindex":0,"class":"boxWidget"},"style":{"left":"","top":"","width":"","height":""},"widgetSet":"basic","grouped":true,"groupid":"g00032","groupName":"w00401"},{"tpl":"tplImage","data":{"g_fixed":false,"g_visibility":false,"g_css_font_text":false,"g_css_background":false,"g_css_shadow_padding":false,"g_css_border":false,"g_gestures":false,"g_signals":false,"g_last_change":false,"visibility-cond":"==","visibility-val":1,"visibility-groups-action":"hide","refreshInterval":"0","signals-cond-0":"==","signals-val-0":true,"signals-icon-0":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-0":0,"signals-blink-0":false,"signals-horz-0":0,"signals-vert-0":0,"signals-hide-edit-0":false,"signals-cond-1":"==","signals-val-1":true,"signals-icon-1":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-1":0,"signals-blink-1":false,"signals-horz-1":0,"signals-vert-1":0,"signals-hide-edit-1":false,"signals-cond-2":"==","signals-val-2":true,"signals-icon-2":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-2":0,"signals-blink-2":false,"signals-horz-2":0,"signals-vert-2":0,"signals-hide-edit-2":false,"lc-type":"last-change","lc-is-interval":true,"lc-is-moment":false,"lc-format":"","lc-position-vert":"top","lc-position-horz":"right","lc-offset-vert":0,"lc-offset-horz":0,"lc-font-size":"12px","lc-font-family":"","lc-font-style":"","lc-bkg-color":"","lc-color":"","lc-border-width":"0","lc-border-style":"","lc-border-color":"","lc-border-radius":10,"lc-zindex":0,"src":"/vis.0/Tankicons/{s:0_userdata.0.Test_String;s.split(\"|\")[0]}.png"},"style":{"left":"58px","top":"73px","width":"80","height":"40"},"widgetSet":"basic","grouped":true,"groupid":"g00032","groupName":"w00398"}]

Könnte das mal jemand bei sich Importieren und dann für diese Gruppe im Exportierendialog in der letzten Zeile nach "groupid" suchen?

[OliverIO]

@spacerx

ne nix zu finden.
ich habe die beiden widgets dann ent-gruppiert und wieder neu gruppiert.
der export sieht dann so aus:

Spoiler

[{"tpl":"_tplGroup","data":{"members":["w00035","w00036"],"visibility-cond":"==","visibility-val":1,"visibility-groups-action":"hide","attrCount":"1","signals-cond-0":"==","signals-val-0":true,"signals-icon-0":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-0":0,"signals-blink-0":false,"signals-horz-0":0,"signals-vert-0":0,"signals-hide-edit-0":false,"signals-cond-1":"==","signals-val-1":true,"signals-icon-1":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-1":0,"signals-blink-1":false,"signals-horz-1":0,"signals-vert-1":0,"signals-hide-edit-1":false,"signals-cond-2":"==","signals-val-2":true,"signals-icon-2":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-2":0,"signals-blink-2":false,"signals-horz-2":0,"signals-vert-2":0,"signals-hide-edit-2":false,"lc-type":"last-change","lc-is-interval":true,"lc-is-moment":false,"lc-format":"","lc-position-vert":"top","lc-position-horz":"right","lc-offset-vert":0,"lc-offset-horz":0,"lc-font-size":"12px","lc-font-family":"","lc-font-style":"","lc-bkg-color":"","lc-color":"","lc-border-width":"0","lc-border-style":"","lc-border-color":"","lc-border-radius":10,"lc-zindex":0},"widgetSet":null,"style":{"top":32.00000762939453,"left":"52px","width":"138px","height":"113px"}},{"tpl":"tplImage","data":{"g_fixed":false,"g_visibility":false,"g_css_font_text":false,"g_css_background":false,"g_css_shadow_padding":false,"g_css_border":false,"g_gestures":false,"g_signals":false,"g_last_change":false,"visibility-cond":"==","visibility-val":1,"visibility-groups-action":"hide","refreshInterval":"0","signals-cond-0":"==","signals-val-0":true,"signals-icon-0":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-0":0,"signals-blink-0":false,"signals-horz-0":0,"signals-vert-0":0,"signals-hide-edit-0":false,"signals-cond-1":"==","signals-val-1":true,"signals-icon-1":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-1":0,"signals-blink-1":false,"signals-horz-1":0,"signals-vert-1":0,"signals-hide-edit-1":false,"signals-cond-2":"==","signals-val-2":true,"signals-icon-2":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-2":0,"signals-blink-2":false,"signals-horz-2":0,"signals-vert-2":0,"signals-hide-edit-2":false,"lc-type":"last-change","lc-is-interval":true,"lc-is-moment":false,"lc-format":"","lc-position-vert":"top","lc-position-horz":"right","lc-offset-vert":0,"lc-offset-horz":0,"lc-font-size":"12px","lc-font-family":"","lc-font-style":"","lc-bkg-color":"","lc-color":"","lc-border-width":"0","lc-border-style":"","lc-border-color":"","lc-border-radius":10,"lc-zindex":0,"src":"/vis.0/Tankicons/{s:0_userdata.0.Test_String;s.split(\"|\")[0]}.png"},"style":{"left":"42.03%","top":"64.59%","width":"57.97%","height":"35.4%"},"widgetSet":"basic","grouped":true,"groupid":"g00002","groupName":"w00035"},{"tpl":"tplFrame","data":{"g_fixed":true,"g_visibility":false,"g_css_font_text":false,"g_css_background":false,"g_css_shadow_padding":false,"g_css_border":false,"g_gestures":false,"g_signals":false,"g_last_change":false,"visibility-cond":"==","visibility-val":1,"visibility-groups-action":"hide","title":" Test_Neu","title_color":"","title_top":"0","title_left":"0","header_height":"0","header_color":"black","signals-cond-0":"==","signals-val-0":true,"signals-icon-0":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-0":0,"signals-blink-0":false,"signals-horz-0":0,"signals-vert-0":0,"signals-hide-edit-0":false,"signals-cond-1":"==","signals-val-1":true,"signals-icon-1":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-1":0,"signals-blink-1":false,"signals-horz-1":0,"signals-vert-1":0,"signals-hide-edit-1":false,"signals-cond-2":"==","signals-val-2":true,"signals-icon-2":"/vis/signals/lowbattery.png","signals-icon-size-2":0,"signals-blink-2":false,"signals-horz-2":0,"signals-vert-2":0,"signals-hide-edit-2":false,"lc-type":"last-change","lc-is-interval":true,"lc-is-moment":false,"lc-format":"","lc-position-vert":"top","lc-position-horz":"right","lc-offset-vert":0,"lc-offset-horz":0,"lc-font-size":"12px","lc-font-family":"","lc-font-style":"","lc-bkg-color":"","lc-color":"","lc-border-width":"0","lc-border-style":"","lc-border-color":"","lc-border-radius":10,"lc-zindex":0,"class":"boxWidget"},"style":{"left":"0%","top":"0%","width":"0%","height":"0%"},"widgetSet":"basic","grouped":true,"groupid":"g00002","groupName":"w00036"}]

also bis auf die geänderte nummerierung kein unterschied

kannst du mit den developer tools des browsers ein wenig umgehen?
mich würde die html struktur des gruppierten widgets vor und nach der aktualisierung interessieren.

wenn du damit umgehen kannst könnte ich dir genaue anweisungen geben.